Maybe it’s their way of saying you should take your music on a world tour…
@antsteep Thank you for the update.
I wanted to buy it to make the same money as HZ, but the demos just never sold it to me. They should have hired DJ to make demo songs.
A demo (or walkthrough) from HZ would have been better.
You're absolutely right. I let my blind admiration for Hans Zimmer get this as soon as Spitfire had a 50% sale. Blind admiration up to a certain point, because I was never going to pay $800 for this library. To me it's downright excessive. If you tell me $800 for all his libraries, and if all his libraries included a brass one, maybe even $1,000. But for the life of me I can't fathom why there would be a set of Hans Zimmer libraries without a gigantic brass library. I mean, anyone who is a fan of his music knows brass is one of those things that can't be missing from most Zimmer productions.
Because HZS was commissioned for Zimmer’s work on Dunkirk. That’s why it has the sounds it has. This was always evident if you were paying attention. I do blame the SF marketing for not being crystal clear about the library, but it was always evident in the demos, the walkthrough, and the articulation list what the library was designed to be. And it is an excellent library in those terms, a sort of detailed and expanded version of Tundra strings. The supplement SF added did make it a better all around string library. That needs to be acknowledged as well.
I thought he said it was used on Dunkirk, not purpose built for it? Although, i may have missed where this point came from...
My understanding is that HZS was commissioned for Dunkirk much as Orchestral Swarm and Fractured Strings have since been commissioned by Bleeding Fingers. SF then developed those samples into commercial libraries, presumably with somewhat different capabilities than whatever was initially commissioned and delivered. (I presume the samples for HZS, for instance, were incorporated into Zimmer's in-house system rather than using the SF player.) All of that is somewhat speculative, though. Zimmer did explicitly say at one point that Dunkirk was his demo for the library.
Someone once said: "It was an exercise in marketing rather than in development"
I don't think this is right. Because the library was an excellent library for what it was (though pricey) even in the initial state in which it was released. I think instead marketing got things badly wrong, and I've always wondered a bit how they got there.
When half of your leadership cares more about the carnival barking than the circus itself, what can you expect? See the Crow Hill theatrics as the latest example. This is what happens when you try to sell a tool as an experience. Thankfully, when it comes to Spitfire, those days seem to have come to a close as market realities set in and the pageantry takes a back seat to more important things.
I wonder if that's true. Marketing is always awful, whether it be through pageantry, 'innovation', twisting the truth or even by being exclusionary. Marketing is positioning with only a secondary importance put on what the product being sold actually is.
But I’m the other hand, look at how many people have said that since CH left, the creativity and community and passion have changed for SF. A lot of people like a good face for the company. Yes it is sometimes extreme marketing. But let’s be honest. They did what they needed to and they knew it would work, and despite the overly vocal minority that is VI-Control (we are just a small part of their audience, and probably the most vocally critical part of their audience, who pay closer attention than most customers), Spitfire was and is pretty highly regarded. So they have done quite a bit right.
