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anyone have an idea about how to re-add a library to the library pane in Kontakt 5.6.8?? I've been having huge issues with the download and installation of CSSS from the installer stopping itself to incomplete downloads and now I finally got it all downloaded and installed but the GUI showed up all effed up on loading the first patch. I tried to remove the library with the idea of trying to readd it but now every time I try to 'add library' in kontakt, Native Access shows up asking for the same serial number every time and when I put in that serial number it registers it but no library shows up in the pane. Selecting the library in native access shows it as installed and up to date so there's no option to add it to the library pane. I just want to play with these sounds!!

Thanks Native Access and Kontakt 5.6.8!!
 
I don't have Kontakt open now but check in the Kontakt preferences (gear icon), there is a new Library pane and I think you can turn removed libraries back on there.
 
muziksculp said:
Hi,

Can someone check this, I hear a weird string snap type of sound when playing the notes E1 then G#1 when using the Classic Legato Cello (sustain Art.) patch. The snap sound is very audible, most likely the legato transition sample needs some editing to fix it. Maybe Alex can test this as well.

Thanks,
Muziksculp
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I can confirm that. It is audible on the regular patch (CSSS Cello.nki) also. It happens in the transition on the upper dynamics with vibrato.
 
prodigalson said:
anyone have an idea about how to re-add a library to the library pane in Kontakt 5.6.8?? I've been having huge issues with the download and installation of CSSS from the installer stopping itself to incomplete downloads and now I finally got it all downloaded and installed but the GUI showed up all effed up on loading the first patch. I tried to remove the library with the idea of trying to readd it but now every time I try to 'add library' in kontakt, Native Access shows up asking for the same serial number every time and when I put in that serial number it registers it but no library shows up in the pane. Selecting the library in native access shows it as installed and up to date so there's no option to add it to the library pane. I just want to play with these sounds!!

Thanks Native Access and Kontakt 5.6.8!!
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I did the exact thing as you and had the same exact issue and thought doing what you did would fix it as well and yes it was super frustrating when it did not and I could not load the Library back in. I called Native instruments and in short Native Access is confused and does not know you deleted the library in Kontakt. I know this should not be the case :)

Here's the fix ..you have to delete the Preference file for Cinematic Studio Strings, empty the trash and restart your mac. it will be the prefernce file that has Native Instruments and Cinematic Studio Strings in it's file name inclusive. ....here's the path (see below) and hope that helps you! After you do this you can add the file again as Native Access now knows it's removed and will let you reinstall. Also why you may have had an issue I think in the beginning not loading is you need to do a Batch resave right away, as my first time loading a patch took a zillion years with this library (beach ball for awhile) , not sure why? as I have done this a zillion times with others and though slow before a batch resave not long like this one was.
  • Macintosh HD > Library > Preferences > com.native-instruments.*Product Name*.plist
 
DocMidi657 said:
I did the exact thing as you and had the same exact issue and thought doing what you did would fix it as well and yes it was super frustrating when it did not and I could not load the Library back in. I called Native instruments and in short Native Access is confused and does not know you deleted the library in Kontakt. I know this should not be the case :)

Here's the fix ..you have to delete the Preference file for Cinematic Studio Strings, empty the trash and restart your mac. it will be the prefernce file that has Native Instruments and Cinematic Studio Strings in it's file name inclusive. ....here's the path (see below) and hope that helps you! After you do this you can add the file again as Native Access now knows it's removed and will let you reinstall. Also why you may have had an issue I think in the beginning not loading is you need to do a Batch resave right away, as my first time loading a patch took a zillion years with this library (beach ball for awhile) , not sure why? as I have done this a zillion times with others and though slow before a batch resave not long like this one was.
  • Macintosh HD > Library > Preferences > com.native-instruments.*Product Name*.plist
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Thanks but actually Synergy453's advice worked like a charm. just go into the librarie's pane in kontakts preferences and recheck the box for CSSS and there it was back again. And somehow the GUI issues were also resolved. very strange.

Anyway, finally playing around with CSSS and indeed it adds a whole new layer of detail and dimension to CSS. this will definitely be the bulk of how I use it I think.
 
Hey guys!
I know, first post on VI-Control :whistling: but I've been following a lot of threads for quite some time. So "Hello all"! :)

Reason I'm writing: NKS-implementation. Has anyone of you managed to import CSSS into Komplete Kontrol? I had no issues with downloading the library and no issues adding the library into Kontakt Version 5.6.8. And usually, when opening the standalone-version of Komplete Kontrol, it adds an NKS-ready library automatically (had no problem with CSS and CSP back then). But not this time. No matter what I do and how many rescans I make, it won't be added into KK. I can add it in the User-Library-Tab but that's not where I want it... ;)

I've already checked the list on Native Instruments for NKS-partners and under Cinematic Studio Series there are only CSS and CSP. Maybe the NKS-support for CSSS is not ready yet?

I've also checked all my NI-relevant directories on my MacBook (like Application Support and Preferences) and it looks all good. CSSS, CSS and CSP are all showing up correctly everywhere.

I just wanted to ask here first before getting in touch with CS-support. Maybe some of you had no problem adding the library into KK so the problem would definitely be on my side.

Thanks for any comments about this.

Cheers, Stefan
 
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muziksculp said:
Here you go, it happens when playing the notes E1 then G#1 Legato Style, on the Classic Cello Sustain, and the standard Cello Sustain Articulation, at the highest dynamic range, with Vibrato Enabled.

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Yep, there's definitely an annoying click within that transition. As eli0s said, it's also in the regular Cello patch. Best option would be to directly inform Alex about this.
 
Is everyone getting their normal download speeds for this product through the Cinematic Series Installer ?
I have a reasonable connection here but showing really slow download speed via the installer.
Cheers
 
YourMasters said:
Hey guys!
I know, first post on VI-Control :whistling: but I've been following a lot of threads for quite some time. So "Hello all"! :)

Reason I'm writing: NKS-implementation. Has anyone of you managed to import CSSS into Komplete Kontrol? I had no issues with downloading the library and no issues adding the library into Kontakt Version 5.6.8. And usually, when opening the standalone-version of Komplete Kontrol, it adds an NKS-ready library automatically (had no problem with CSS and CSP back then). But not this time. No matter what I do and how many rescans I make, it won't be added into KK. I can add it in the User-Library-Tab but that's not where I want it... ;)

I've already checked the list on Native Instruments for NKS-partners and under Cinematic Studio Series there are only CSS and CSP. Maybe the NKS-support for CSSS is not ready yet?

I've also checked all my NI-relevant directories on my MacBook (like Application Support and Preferences) and it looks all good. CSSS, CSS and CSP are all showing up correctly everywhere.

I just wanted to ask here first before getting in touch with CS-support. Maybe some of you had no problem adding the library into KK so the problem would definitely be on my side.

Thanks for any comments about this.

Cheers, Stefan
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To answer my own question and in case anybody is interested in NKS-support as well, I just got a reply from Alex telling me the following:

"Hi Stefan,

Sorry about that - we're releasing an update shortly that will add Komplete Kontrol support - we just had to tweak a couple of minor things. Won't be long!

Best,
Alex :)"

So I simply need to be a little bit patient. ;)
 
I just couldn't help it and bought the library as my birthday present today. Still downloading...

Thank you Alex not only for a generous but also - and let me stress this once again - NON EXPIRING - loyalty discount. I can't wait to get my hands on CSS soon and thanks to your policy I'll be able to make it happen!
 
rottoy said:
Having used this library for a while now, there's something that sounds like a crossfade in the sustain / legato articulation.
Instead of a rebow, it sounds like a grafted on sustain part that has a markedly different vibrato.
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Not sure if I read you right but :
If you leave the sustain pedal on and repeat the note you want to hold you get a change of bow and at different speeds depending on velocity. Sounds more natural than holding a note longer than a real player can actually play.

I also find longs not quite as intuitive as the shorts but with midi massaging they come up pretty good.
 
col said:
Not sure if I read you right but :
If you leave the sustain pedal on and repeat the note you want to hold you get a change of bow and at different speeds depending on velocity. Sounds more natural than holding a note longer than a real player can actually play.

I also find longs not quite as intuitive as the shorts but with midi massaging they come up pretty good.
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You are correct, activating the sustain pedal fixed all my issues. Thanks.
 
col said:
Not sure if I read you right but :
If you leave the sustain pedal on and repeat the note you want to hold you get a change of bow and at different speeds depending on velocity. Sounds more natural than holding a note longer than a real player can actually play.

I also find longs not quite as intuitive as the shorts but with midi massaging they come up pretty good.
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Good tip!
 
Hello all!

I've just finished a piece using CSSS and I must say that I have mixed feelings about the library. The solo in the second half is Embertone's Joshua Bell violin.



So, I was expecting a set of instruments that will replace any other library for all of my needs in solo strings writing, just as CSS replaced everything and became the staple in my orchestral template! I am afraid that CSSS has some weaknesses that limit their capability when used exposed.
Now, please bear in mind that this is the first time I used the instruments, my skill-set isn't the best and that perhaps the library isn't as suited for my slow paced writing.

Here are some of the more noticeable problems I encountered:

1) There is some cross-fading in dynamics, especially in the 1rst transition (from p to mp).
2) There is even more noticeable cross-fading between non-vibrato and vibrato transitioning.
Both of the above can be hided by trying different legato speed transitions and CC2 envelope timings, however there is need for some trial and error.
3) The marcato articulation doesn't sound good like the legato articulation, however, the latter feels like it is struggling in faster passages.
4) Just like in CSS, there are inconsistencies in volume between the different short articulation styles. I feel that this is by design because some techniques are louder than others, however, the same velocity note can have very different volume and alternating between spiccato / staccatissimo / staccato / Sforzando also needs some trial and error.

All that being said, I really like the sound of the library! I haven't tried yet as 1rst chairs with CSS but I trust it will be adding detail and a "higher frequencies flavor" that I tend to compensate with EQ in CSS.
The recordings are consistent, there isn't any phasing issues and the mixing options are there! If enough effort is put, the library can sound fantastic as a quartet (in my piece I used 2 cellos, I wish there was a Contrabass)! The 2nd violin and the lower register on the viola are amazing!
Rebowing sounds very good (better than CSS in my opinion) and the legato, with a bit of work, can sound great!

I do own Samplemodeling's strings and I was using these up until now. Performance wise they are top-notch, nothing can beat their expressive capabilities, however their sound leaves something to be desired. CSSS blends this gap for me. On a side note, Embertone's new violin does deliver something special! It has it's quirks but this is for an other topic!

Sorry for the long post!

Elias
 
eli0s said:
Hello all!

I've just finished a piece using CSSS and I must say that I have mixed feelings about the library. The solo in the second half is Embertone's Joshua Bell violin.



So, I was expecting a set of instruments that will replace any other library for all of my needs in solo strings writing, just as CSS replaced everything and became the staple in my orchestral template! I am afraid that CSSS has some weaknesses that limit their capability when used exposed.
Now, please bear in mind that this is the first time I used the instruments, my skill-set isn't the best and that perhaps the library isn't as suited for my slow paced writing.

Here are some of the more noticeable problems I encountered:

1) There is some cross-fading in dynamics, especially in the 1rst transition (from p to mp).
2) There is even more noticeable cross-fading between non-vibrato and vibrato transitioning.
Both of the above can be hided by trying different legato speed transitions and CC2 envelope timings, however there is need for some trial and error.
3) The marcato articulation doesn't sound good like the legato articulation, however, the latter feels like it is struggling in faster passages.
4) Just like in CSS, there are inconsistencies in volume between the different short articulation styles. I feel that this is by design because some techniques are louder than others, however, the same velocity note can have very different volume and alternating between spiccato / staccatissimo / staccato / Sforzando also needs some trial and error.

All that being said, I really like the sound of the library! I haven't tried yet as 1rst chairs with CSS but I trust it will be adding detail and a "higher frequencies flavor" that I tend to compensate with EQ in CSS.
The recordings are consistent, there isn't any phasing issues and the mixing options are there! If enough effort is put, the library can sound fantastic as a quartet (in my piece I used 2 cellos, I wish there was a Contrabass)! The 2nd violin and the lower register on the viola are amazing!
Rebowing sounds very good (better than CSS in my opinion) and the legato, with a bit of work, can sound great!

I do own Samplemodeling's strings and I was using these up until now. Performance wise they are top-notch, nothing can beat their expressive capabilities, however their sound leaves something to be desired. CSSS blends this gap for me. On a side note, Embertone's new violin does deliver something special! It has it's quirks but this is for an other topic!

Sorry for the long post!

Elias
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I really like your composition, very original writing! was it for something? btw strings sound amazing
 
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