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Samplicity announces Berlin Studio plugin

Peter Emanuel Roos said:
The current intro price will run until the end of the year.

The fixes for the current issues are being tested (rather a few days more than the previous hurry).

The loud noise issue was very likely in the EQ department, which has been rewritten in the last days (the processing part), with 64 bit processing; faster and more accurate as a side-effect.

The validation issue was the plugin blowing up the AU validator when it was told to process at 22.5 kHz. An internal downsampler was switched on to up-sample - not anticipated buffer overruns, but easy to fix.

Emailing issues from the website will hopefully be fixed now I am switching to Mail Chimp, not in the first place for marketing emails, but for the so-called transactional emails (confirmation, download links).

Even with quite some convolutions being calculated, the processing should still be light. On a medium i5 laptop I have used 16 instances (all mics) for a demo, at 50% CPU in Reaper. I advise proper routing with groups and not to add so many full length reverb tails.

TIP: if you set a reverb channel's tail to zero, it will stop calculating the tail part after 2 seconds. The mute can't do that, as you would miss reverb when you toggle it back on. This was meant for positioning-only. I will be made a more understable setting in a next version (so, one toggle for positioning, making processing extremely light).

The late December update will have an option for enabling the multi-threading (which is off in the first releases), making calculations even lighter. Another option will be the first lossy computations option (there are more eggs in the basket, but not all will be added at once).
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I know it may feel like you’re in a tunnel with no end right now, but I have to echo the sentiments about this working flawlessly and efficiently.

I also don’t recall the last time a reverb got a 26 page thread in recent times. Just shows how special this plugin is. 🙂
 
Thanks for these last remarks, appreciated!
I also did not have the noise issues, making it hard to debug it.

I would like to ask a few Logic users to help me with testing the latest "fix" version,
but: only if you have this loud noise problem.
Contact me by PM or email - thanks in advance!
 
SZK-Max said:
MBP16 i9 64GB cubase12 RME BabyfaceFS

I don't know the cause. At first, there was a noise that EQ was causing a bit crash, but after reinstalling it, it was cured. A little CPU peaky.

This is really magic. It blended perfectly with the OT trumpets.
blue: MA5 Trps
red: AVB Trps
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View attachment test-01.mp3
I'm looking forward to multithreading.
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Wow, thanks so much!

There is a chance that the fix from this week also helps with reported CPU usage: if a plugin is processing really out-of-range values (noise), or very very small values (denormals) this may slow down calculations... EQ has been replaced/rewritten with better and faster 64 bit code.

I use slower Macs for testing - if you want to check the "fix", send me a PM.
 
Question for the very few people who report "heavy CPU use" on Macs:

Is there a chance that your DAW is running in Rosetta 2 mode?

I just noticed that a new Cubase license installed here, on a Silicon Mac, started in Rosetta mode. Seems to be an Apple issue. Can be easily corrected, but it may/will as a side-effect move Berlin Studio to the Blocked plugins list.

[Edit: solved - Apple Rosetta does not support Intel AVX code, this was the reason why the plugin does not work after version 1.0.1 with Rosetta. Reverted in coming update]
 
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SZK-Max said:
MBP16 i9 64GB cubase12 RME BabyfaceFS

I don't know the cause. At first, there was a noise that EQ was causing a bit crash, but after reinstalling it, it was cured. A little CPU peaky.

This is really magic. It blended perfectly with the OT trumpets.
blue: MA5 Trps
red: AVB Trps
スクリーンショット 2022-11-25 20.24.38.png
View attachment test-01.mp3
I'm looking forward to multithreading.
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wow that's a killer demo..
the tone of the trumpets themselves were probably similar, but the placement and space matches very well.
Amazing for an exposed demo.

Makes me wish there was an Air Studio version of this.
If the people at Air Studios heard this demo, they'd be like "hell no" (because it recreates the space so well) xD
 
Raphioli said:
wow that's a killer demo..
the tone of the trumpets themselves were probably similar, but the placement and space matches very well.
Amazing for an exposed demo.

Makes me wish there was an Air Studio version of this.
If the people at Air Studios heard this demo, they'd be like "hell no" (because it recreates the space so well) xD
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Air's Hall is such an amazing place, especially with what I call the UFO hovering over the orchestra. They can manage the tail lengths from moderate to loooong by raising it. HZ's favorite place to record, and rightfully so.

I bet as well: no sine sweep recordings allowed...?

And SZK-Max just reported to me he was able to run 32 instances of Berlin Studio :emoji_muscle:
 
Peter Emanuel Roos said:
Question for the very few people who report "heavy CPU use" on Macs:

Is there a chance that your DAW is running in Rosetta 2 mode?

I just noticed that a new Cubase license installed here, on a Silicon Mac, started in Rosetta mode. Seems to be an Apple issue. Can be easily corrected, but it may/will as a side-effect move Berlin Studio to the Blocked plugins list.

And as provided in Universal Binary format, it makes no sense to run Berlin Studiok with optimized / vectorized Intel code in Rosetta's emulation mode (I guess this will get it blocked) - so, not supported.

Curious if someone is using it in Rosetta mode.
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No. I can't even run the plugin in Rosetta (1.0.2). The original version ONLY ran in Rosetta, and I would have called it light on the CPU.
 
Peter Emanuel Roos said:
Air's Hall is such an amazing place, especially with what I call the UFO hovering over the orchestra. They can manage the tail lengths from moderate to loooong by raising it. HZ's favorite place to record, and rightfully so.

I bet as well: no sine sweep recordings allowed...?

And SZK-Max just reported to me he was able to run 32 instances of Berlin Studio :emoji_muscle:
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Speaking of Spitfire, any tips on using Berlin for matching it to Abbey Road?
 
Ivan Duch said:
Speaking of Spitfire, any tips on using Berlin for matching it to Abbey Road?
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I was discussing the same with Allen C. yesterday. I have been once in AR 1, I remember it is more dense and open than Teldex, but this is so subjective. If you compare photos from both studios, to me it looks like Teldex has more, and more modern acoustics treatment, but I am a noob at that - just my impression.

But I bet a good mixing engineer can make AR, Air or Teldex sound alike, maybe even with their mic placement skills.
And: when I was at AR, there was at least one Bricasti switched on - no idea if the mix I heard had any signal from it.
 
Peter Emanuel Roos said:
I was discussing the same with Allen C. yesterday. I have been once in AR 1, I remember it is more dense and open than Teldex, but this is so subjective. If you compare photos from both studios, to me it looks like Teldex has more, and more modern acoustics treatment, but I am a noob at that - just my impression.

But I bet a good mixing engineer can make AR, Air or Teldex sound alike, maybe even with their mic placement skills.
And: when I was at AR, there was at least one Bricasti switched on - no idea if the mix I heard had any signal from it.
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@Rctec can chime on this as he is friends with Alan Meyerson and many others mix engineers.
Also, what @Peter Emanuel Roos has created here, it is a fabulous gem and we should all appreciate his efforts. Love this guy!

Cheers,
A.
 
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