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samphony

Senior Member
Track templates are working well so far. There are a couple of things to watch out for though.

At first, I tried to put all tracks (disabled) into one project, but I found when I dragged a track to the arrange window, S1 ran through a very long 'search' of the template song each time. So I broke each instrument group/library out into their own template. I placed them all in a tab in the file browser.

Dragging a track (or multiple tracks) over is now instant.



Secondly, using this method doesn't allow me to replace an existing track by dragging another on over it. That's no biggie though.
Hopefully they are able to update this feature so it would be possible to drag tracks in between existing tracks. Much like you do when dragging instruments, audio etc. at the moment imported tracks land at the end of the tracks list.
 

Lukas

Keyboardist / composer
Hopefully they are able to update this feature so it would be possible to drag tracks in between existing tracks. Much like you do when dragging instruments, audio etc. at the moment imported tracks land at the end of the tracks list.
I agree... this would be a good workflow improvement.
 

DS_Joost

One day I'll fly away!
Hopefully they are able to update this feature so it would be possible to drag tracks in between existing tracks. Much like you do when dragging instruments, audio etc. at the moment imported tracks land at the end of the tracks list.
What is needed for that is an overhaul of the save behaviour. Studio One does this weird thing that it packages everything individually, thus leading to long save and loading times with projects with lots of tracks and plugins. It isn't that the program is slow, that's not the issue. It is literally how Studio One processes everything when saving. It's a weird issue, and it's also why it needs to load everything in the project before being able to drop the selected tracks in from other projects.
 

Lukas

Keyboardist / composer
This has nothing to do with the file structur or save behaviour. The extraction of the song file structure is already done when you click and drag one object like an instrument track or a .musicx performance. It's just a matter of how the drag to import feature is implemented.
 

jbuhler

Senior Member
What is needed for that is an overhaul of the save behaviour. Studio One does this weird thing that it packages everything individually, thus leading to long save and loading times with projects with lots of tracks and plugins. It isn't that the program is slow, that's not the issue. It is literally how Studio One processes everything when saving. It's a weird issue, and it's also why it needs to load everything in the project before being able to drop the selected tracks in from other projects.
The bigger the project the more difficulty S1 has in closing the project, especially if you have lots of Kontakt instruments. Watching Activity Monitor as it closes, it seems like S1 often gets stuck releasing memory from Kontakt and then just sits there until you force quit.
 

samphony

Senior Member
What is needed for that is an overhaul of the save behaviour. Studio One does this weird thing that it packages everything individually, thus leading to long save and loading times with projects with lots of tracks and plugins. It isn't that the program is slow, that's not the issue. It is literally how Studio One processes everything when saving. It's a weird issue, and it's also why it needs to load everything in the project before being able to drop the selected tracks in from other projects.
That is another area that needs improvement. In my daily routine working with Logic Pro I think it has the best auto save algorithm in the business. S1 needs to abandon that intrusive save behavior but that is not directly related to the save and import behavior when dealing with presets and track import.
 

maestro2be

Active Member
There is certainly an issue with it's handling of Kontakt instruments. The hanging and or crashing anytime I have a Kontakt Instrument is very frustrating. Would love to see that fixed. Interestingly, it even has problems dealing with VE Pro when it has Kontakt Instruments loaded in it. My projects will hang forever and have to force quit VE Pro. If I use no Kontakt Instruments, all is good. Also want to repeat that I want to see surround support added :).

With the awesome deals at Steinberg right now I am very tempted to go to Nuendo.
 

Dewdman42

Senior Member
I had to turn off auto-save on S1 because it is really intrusive....bad design in every way. I like a lot of things about S1, but auto-save is not one of them.
 

jbuhler

Senior Member
I had to turn off auto-save on S1 because it is really intrusive....bad design in every way. I like a lot of things about S1, but auto-save is not one of them.
Yes, and when autosave kicks in it completely takes over for fifteen seconds or so. Again, I come back to the design team and wonder why they thought this behavior was a good idea. Personally, I didn't disable auto-save, but I set it to autosave only once an hour.

I agree that there is much to like about the program. So it's just weird when you run into these sorts of basic issues, many of which are long-standing and still not resolved.
 
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