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Berlin Studio - The Ultimate Reverb Test

Flyo said:
Hi, there will be an AAX update compatible soon?
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I can't give a timeline, because I have not done the integration with Avid software before, and I find everything about it a bit, ahem, can I say "old, outdated, not giving warm feelings"?

The next planned update for BST with the iLok integration is needed anyway for making a PT version. Hopefully before Christmas.
 
Peter Emanuel Roos said:
Panta rhei :-D

For my other plugin, the BM7 I wanted to make a very smooth stretching/shrinking of a convolving IR.
I was so pleased with it, that I decided to drop it into Berlin Studio as well.

Now I like the amazing shrinking / growing Teldex hall :-D

(there was also demand for this feature)
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Amazing. Thanks for the response.
 
Hunter123 said:
How is this on CPU and latency? Can I download a demo somewhere on the website?
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Zero latency, independent of the hosts buffer size.

Very light on CPU, for a triple True Stereo convolver. There has been serious R & D to get to this level of efficiency (currently not running at its max, multi threading is switched off), also because of potential applications in other fields.

Next update (expected around Christmas) will even be more efficient.

Trials will require iLok and that will be integrated in the coming month, so not before then.
 
This all sounds tempting, even for someone who uses Berlin Series samples because routing them through a common reverb should mean you can rely on close/spot/tree mics only and save a lot of CPU (and ssd space) that otherwise would be needed for all those surround mic signals. Or is there a catch?

For me it would be also very interesting to use it with synchron instruments which to me don't sound very much "in the room". Would love to hear some synchron percussion samples routed through Berlin Studio.
 
Obi-Wan Spaghetti said:
If the close mics of your SF library are dry enough you could put all your samples in BS i suppose. If that's what you want maybe somebody can post some example to see how BS handle SF samples?
edited: I'd be curious to hear BS with SCS close mic myself.
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I don't have OT strings, but I will be glad to run a test with CSC on Berlin Studio if someone provides a few short notes of the close mic of OT.
 
I bought mine yesterday and tried it out for an hour or two with several instruments. To summarize my impression: It's amazing what it does to the signals. A few quick thoughts:

* It puts signals in a room. If you have samples that are not very "in the room", you can enhance this by using Berlin Studio. I wouldn't consider it to be a substitute for a dedicated reverb like Seventh Heaven or Cinematic Rooms.
* It smoothens transients to a degree that I didn't expect. You can throw in blaring trumpets, piercing piccolo, bells etc, it will all nicely be smoothened out. Very cool!
* What it doesn't do: It doesn't turn a close/spot mic signal into a tree mic signal. I tried it out with Synchron Brass instruments close mic only, it still sounded way too thin. Going in with Tree/main mics produced good results.
* I compared OT M. Ark samples spot mic only + Berlin Studio with the original spot+tree mix and it's actually quite close, but more muffled/muddied. To be fair, I didn't play around much with the EQ settings which Berlin Studio also has a lot of. I think you can edit the hell out of the signal with this, but I usually don't do EQing mic signals. I'm a composer after all. :)
* What was interesting to me: While it sounds amazing with plate bells, with horns, with timpani, I wasn't so overwhelmed by what it does to (synchron) woodwinds. I think I heard some not so nice resonances. Might be EQ-able though.
* To finish off with a real game changer for me: The synchron percussion with close and main mics put through Berlin Studio had a lot of presence and sounded wonderful. The timpani was just amazing!
* Didn't have time to try it with CSS. I can imagine it does wonderful things to strings. Maybe someone else here can tell about that.

Hope this helps some way or the other. Have a great weekend!
 
xanderscores said:
I bought mine yesterday and tried it out for an hour or two with several instruments. To summarize my impression: It's amazing what it does to the signals. A few quick thoughts:

* It puts signals in a room. If you have samples that are not very "in the room", you can enhance this by using Berlin Studio. I wouldn't consider it to be a substitute for a dedicated reverb like Seventh Heaven or Cinematic Rooms.
* It smoothens transients to a degree that I didn't expect. You can throw in blaring trumpets, piercing piccolo, bells etc, it will all nicely be smoothened out. Very cool!
* What it doesn't do: It doesn't turn a close/spot mic signal into a tree mic signal. I tried it out with Synchron Brass instruments close mic only, it still sounded way too thin. Going in with Tree/main mics produced good results.
* I compared OT M. Ark samples spot mic only + Berlin Studio with the original spot+tree mix and it's actually quite close, but more muffled/muddied. To be fair, I didn't play around much with the EQ settings which Berlin Studio also has a lot of. I think you can edit the hell out of the signal with this, but I usually don't do EQing mic signals. I'm a composer after all. :)
* What was interesting to me: While it sounds amazing with plate bells, with horns, with timpani, I wasn't so overwhelmed by what it does to (synchron) woodwinds. I think I heard some not so nice resonances. Might be EQ-able though.
* To finish off with a real game changer for me: The synchron percussion with close and main mics put through Berlin Studio had a lot of presence and sounded wonderful. The timpani was just amazing!
* Didn't have time to try it with CSS. I can imagine it does wonderful things to strings. Maybe someone else here can tell about that.

Hope this helps some way or the other. Have a great weekend!
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Some great comments on Berlin Studio, which is really helpful as it is on my list, but I’m not sure it is for right now. I probably need to look into more as I would like to reduce down all the mics, that require storage and RAM, but it looks like this will only do this to a certain degree, which was expected.
 
This is the best plugin I've bought in a long time, or it will be when it works properly. I wouldn't use it with actual Teldex samples, however. I get the idea of using it in place of additional mics, but why? Sine has mic merge.
 
I purchased, but not up and running yet. I have contacted Peter. Anybody else having crashing issues? I have tried (Monterey) with Cubase 12, Studio One and Logic. It says incompatible on all. Any suggestions?
 
jon wayne said:
Any suggestions?
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Have you tried the VST2 version?

In FL Studio the VST2 fixed the major issues. Have incorporated it in some projects by now and no issues so far. Biggest one has around 15 instances of Berlin Studio. Looking forward for the panning update and especially the multithreading update in december.
 
That's possible... As i remember it, this update broke the plugin for some DAWs. Would make sense that he crawled back with the version. But the next update should come soon as Peter stated in the other thread. Hold on 🫂
 
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