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VSL Synchron Strings I Announced (Nov. Release)

Casiquire said:
Agreed. However good demos do still get ignored, despite an example to the contrary.
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+1. A good shill is a subtle shill. But the overall result of all shills on one thread usually betrays them. Your good description of how they kept ignoring the better demos is one good example. It was clear from the very begining. This is unfortunate as their are many who trust this forum.
Edit: mike verta has a brilliant idea where he made a forum where people are forced to register with their real names.
 
I'm not sure I'd go quite that far, but it is frustrating that negative is viewed as honest. Honest truth is some demos don't sound great, but some truly do, just like anything else.
 
Casiquire said:
I'm not sure I'd go quite that far, but it is frustrating that negative is viewed as honest. Honest truth is some demos don't sound great, but some truly do, just like anything else.
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Nice way of putting it, and could’t Agree more, but the way I see it is if someone sees this library with a grain of salt I have ***the right*** to treat them likewise; So,
1. To be fair when this library is not showing up ALL what VSL portrayed it initially, this is absolutely true, but some of what was delivered came out true. In that respect VSL delivered.
2. And what seems to be “conveniently” forgotten is that we are judging an incomplete product on 2 levels (a) Quality of sound (legati, etc..) and (b) the playing engine. It’s not a secret that these are actually intertwined but I won’t go there, but what I must say is that here hard criticism should be directed to the company not the product... in other words this is a marketing fluke not a technical fluke. But anybody on the negative side doing that? Not really.. because ?

This library will take some time to mature, but we can only wait till the rabbit is completely out of the hat until we have the right to judge as to what it is.
My 2 cents.
 
C-Wave said:
And what seems to be “conveniently” forgotten is that we are judging an incomplete product
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This can be looked at from a differently,

It could be that there is so much respect for VSL, that the incomplete library, should be world class or even better than the rest.

C-Wave said:
This library will take some time to mature,
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The library is growing more and more on me the mic position on the standard are quite nice and gives some very nice tones loading all four mic positions and playing all together in Veinna ensemble can give off an enormous string sound, and even on standard edition can really make these strings very personal and intimate. It is definitely a gold nugget in my arsenal.
 
novaburst said:
..and playing all together in Veinna ensemble can give off an enormous string sound, and even on standard edition can really make these strings very personal and intimate. It is definitely a gold nugget in my arsenal.
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This! Each time I hear those Cellos resonate, I say to myself VSL should demonstrate this aspect.
 
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ka00 said:
@C-Wave
1. Do you make it a habit of questioning the integrity of everyone who even remotely disagrees with you about anything?

2. Do you generate conspiracy theories to explain away aspects of reality that you find uncomfortable because they don’t fit your fixed understanding of things?

3. Do you know how hard it is to feed a family of twelve with freelance shilling when there are people like you exposing even the subtlest of subtle shilling campaigns? So subtle in fact as to appear indistinguishable from real people with real opinions that simply don’t match your own?
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Beautiful reply, so nicely done.. but who are you? Poster # 1910. So your point is i’m imagining things? Ok no worries ;)
 
We're veering away from substantive discussion again haha.

Weren't we supposed to see demos of the new player any day now?
 
Casiquire said:
We're veering away from substantive discussion again haha.

Weren't we supposed to see demos of the new player any day now?
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Thanks Casiquire. And you don’t have to agree with me on anything to say I have come to repspect your posts. Very moderate and balanced..
I have made my lifestyle to appreciate beauty.. in the same spirit this library has lots of this despite its shortcomings.
 
Casiquire said:
We're veering away from substantive discussion again haha.

Weren't we supposed to see demos of the new player any day now?
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I was hoping, too.

Paul wrote in the VSL forum:
"I'm afraid I won't get to the videos before NAMM, but I will show the player at NAMM for sure. Still no release date there, I'm afraid. We want this player to be stable like a rock, even in v 1.0."

A bit disappointing... a bit. :unsure:
 
I was wondering how people use SyS or have you discoverd this as yet,

I am using Synchron strings by loading all mic positions, inside ensemble or ensemble pro, and linking the instrument to the same channel then adjusting the mic volume and or mic pan also can adjust the fader in ensemble.

I could end up playing two or all the mics position with the Instrument depending on feel or project, at the moment that of course is 1st violins and cellos and basses.

You can get such a sweet tone and sound from using the library like this also it prompts many other possibilities.
 
novaburst said:
I was wondering how people use SyS or have you discoverd this as yet,

I am using Synchron strings by loading all mic positions, inside ensemble or ensemble pro, and linking the instrument to the same channel then adjusting the mic volume and or mic pan also can adjust the fader in ensemble.

I could end up playing two or all the mics position with the Instrument depending on feel or project, at the moment that of course is 1st violins and cellos and basses.

You can get such a sweet tone and sound from using the library like this also it prompts many other possibilities.
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Hey,
I am doing similar things with he mics; same midi channel on each group going from ensemble pro (VSL template) going to same midi track on Cubase 9.5, but even using just the room-mix plus the mid mic are giving me a full sound while maintaining good amount of detail from the mid mic.
 
I am still waiting for the new player, but I am quite content with the room mix preset in VI Pro. For me, it sounds good with some additional reverb.

I am only a bit confused... in the setup video Paul says that the room mix is a combination of the mid and all others mixed down from the full library (!!!) even if you have the standard library. On the other hand, in the manual the room mix is described as a mix of only the standard ones if you have the standard library.

What do you think?
 
Pixelpoet1985 said:
I am only a bit confused... in the setup video Paul says that the room mix is a combination of the mid and all others mixed down from the full library (!!!) even if you have the standard library. On the other hand, in the manual the room mix is described as a mix of only the standard ones if you have the standard library.

What do you think?
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I think it may well be, but the problem if you can call it a problem is it's only one take it may or may not be to your liking,

Being able to tweak the mics to your liking is a big advantage even if its on standard, but I can only imagine the sound you can get from the full version.:shocked:
 
Hej,

I am new in this forum, as a member, but I am following this thread since 3 month...

Now I just want to share a sneak peak video from Lorne Balfe in Synchron Stage Vienna...

I think this room sounds reaally special and different. But different in a good way! I think it is one of the best recording studios in the world! Isn't it?

What do you guys think about it?

 
Jimmy Hellfire said:
I'm not sure, but to me, the room mix samples have something in them I can't reproduce with the standard library mics on their own. I do believe that what Paul said in the video is correct.
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I believe Paul said the Room-Mix also contains a mix of the surround mics folded-down-to stereo. It sounds virtually identical to the default Full Version VE-Pro Preset Mix. If this is how it was created, it likely also contains the Matrix delays as well which will further spread the sound. So you likely couldn't create the Room-Mix with just the standard library. However, I believe its included with the Standard Library and it really has a superbly mixed sound. With the Full Version, I have a hard time improving upon the Room-Mix using individual mics, the Room-Mix is just a very good mix! Maybe someone from VSL can then explain to us what are the advantages then of the Full Version?
 
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