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VSL Synchron Strings I Announced (Nov. Release)

novaburst said:
Quite a few string library's here even O T Berlin Strings , while they do all sound quite nice I can hear quite a bit of depth and density in Synchron Strings that hasn't been matched as yet.

Could this be The HD recording VSL are talking about because its quit a big jump in sound quality.
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Yes they sound quite a bit nicer than Synchron. But Synchron is HD! So it must be better...:) Maybe it will even be super HD - maybe 8k or 16k...:) maybe we should stop falling for marketing BS like that.
 
Simon Ravn said:
Not really, no. There is a way to measure quality, and in this situation, realism. It is not purely subjective. And I think it has been said so many times in this thread that we know what the problem is with Synchron.
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Yes, I know it and you are not wrong by saying it but sometimes it is also good just to leave someone alone and if he things the library is great then this is fine because it is how he feels. I think in this thread everybody has already said all the things and problems with SS at least twice if not more. I dont want to forbid you having an opinion, of course not. We all have different views on a subject. I just thought if that pro and contra battling brings anything new to the table. For me not really..
 
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C-Wave said:
I agree.. so I apologized and he/she chose to keep venting. So I apologize again if I offended anyone.. but I hardly think it is “nice” that my apology is appreciated.
So I responded by a similar technical question. Now if his question was a real question why shouldn’t my question be treated as a question rather than a statement. Still I apologized for presuming it is otherwise.. just in case I misjudged him.
Again, I apologized (mainly out of self respect) because I presumed he is asking a technical question that I considered, in the spirit of this thread which is mainly critical of VSL Synchron Strings, as being again a statement.
Now where in that you think I was not being not nice or professional?
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Let's leave this argument, all is good.
 
The sad truth is that every time someone shares a mock up done with a whatever library that isn't Synchron , we all like it, especially for the legato result. When it's done with Synchron, it doesn't work very well even if it is well programmed, or it even just sucks when it is programmed by a less skilled user.
 
Mousavi said:
I agree with you!



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Yes Mousavi, we got your track :)
It has some really nice moments, like the beginning. At the same time I personally really don't like some other moments where voices are too "stationary" and also I don't get some parallelisms of 4th that sound out of the style of the general composition. Ends of the OT.
 
Mousavi said:
VSL

They didn't just take user feedback seriously. Actually, I do use other libraries such as Berlin Strings, Spitfire Audio Chamber Strings/Symphonic Strings and only reason I ever used anyone else was too much better legato script, short note attacks and huge detail sampled short/long articulations, etc.


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Just for my curiosity, do you own any VSL product?
 
Mousavi said:
Vienna Dimension Strings
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Anybody here tried laying out Dimension Strings on top of SS? Wow, I mean wow! Never heard this sound before and playability.. well let’s say i’m having lots of fun.
Sorry SS haters is if this pisses you off but had to say this in case someone has both products.
 
muziksculp said:
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by 'Round Robin Ostinato' ? if you use a staccato strings patch to create an ostinato phrase, doesn't SyS have lots of RRobins to create a convincing Ostinato ?
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By its nature, an simple ostinato of two alternating notes is not a repeating single note so RR's don't get activated even though a library might have them. Hence the artificial sound that doesn't sound humanly played. I tried to see if legato ostinato's as featured in the Minority report example sounded convincing on my Dimension Strings and no, because every time it returns to the first note, it picks the same sample out of 3 possible ones.

If Vienna Instruments Pro was smart it would give an option to always randomize or always sequentially use the samples for a particular matrix cell. I would then set that on one of the cells when i wanted to do this kind of thing and it would sound right. If it allowed something like this then each time you return to the first note it would sound slightly different, and therefore have a more realistic legato ostinato feel.

If this feature already exists in VIPro, please oh please someone tell me how to enable it! I would expect it to work especially well in DS since each instrument would have its own random 3 legato samples to pick from out of the RR pool per note.
 
Critz said:
The sad truth is that every time someone shares a mock up done with a whatever library that isn't Synchron , we all like it, especially for the legato result. When it's done with Synchron, it doesn't work very well even if it is well programmed, or it even just sucks when it is programmed by a less skilled user.
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Even that's not true. There have been a couple decent examples from SyS. However there's even more at play than just that: when someone posts a mockup with another library, it's one that they know intimately well, not one that we've played with for less than a month. AND it's the FULL LIBRARY in its proper player.
 
Casiquire said:
Even that's not true. There have been a couple decent examples from SyS. However there's even more at play than just that: when someone posts a mockup with another library, it's one that they know intimately well, not one that we've played with for less than a month. AND it's the FULL LIBRARY in its proper player.
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This.

I did mine in about 30 mins using just cellos and violins 1 and was literally the 2nd or 3rd time i had had a little play with it.

I have no doubt that with more experience in using it, the Synchron player, and the full ensemble of legato patches, i could make a pretty realistic mock up of the MR thing.

Do i think Synchron is perfect though? No.
Did it live up to my expectations? No, not yet.

It has a lot of things i like though and for the early bird price + voucher offer it was very reasonable price wise.

I am reserving full judgement on it until the proper player that it was designed for is out and until the whole library is released.
 
EuropaWill said:
By its nature, an simple ostinato of two alternating notes is not a repeating single note so RR's don't get activated even though a library might have them. Hence the artificial sound that doesn't sound humanly played. I tried to see if legato ostinato's as featured in the Minority report example sounded convincing on my Dimension Strings and no, because every time it returns to the first note, it picks the same sample out of 3 possible ones.

If Vienna Instruments Pro was smart it would give an option to always randomize or always sequentially use the samples for a particular matrix cell. I would then set that on one of the cells when i wanted to do this kind of thing and it would sound right. If it allowed something like this then each time you return to the first note it would sound slightly different, and therefore have a more realistic legato ostinato feel.

If this feature already exists in VIPro, please oh please someone tell me how to enable it! I would expect it to work especially well in DS since each instrument would have its own random 3 legato samples to pick from out of the RR pool per note.
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It's possible to do this quite easily in VIPro.

You have to do the following:
Create a new matrix and put your legato patch in it.
Now for every RRSample the patch has create a copy of that patch along the x axis.
Set every instance of that patch to use only one of the available RRSamples, for each cell a different one.
Lastly set the X-Axis switching mode to sequential.
This will make the VIPro cycle through the cells of the x axis an thus cycle through the different RRSamples.

Hope this helps!
 
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