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Orchestral Tools : Berlin Symphonic Strings

I think with (1) poly mode and (2) layering multiple articulations on the same keyswitch, it might be possible to create performance combi that fit within 12 keyswitches.

For example, marcato controlled by note velocity, layered with sustain controlled by CC, and the poly mode cc to switch between decrescendo, normal sustain, or crescendo dynamics?
 
shawnsingh said:
I think with (1) poly mode and (2) layering multiple articulations on the same keyswitch, it might be possible to create performance combi that fit within 12 keyswitches.

For example, marcato controlled by note velocity, layered with sustain controlled by CC, and the poly mode cc to switch between decrescendo, normal sustain, or crescendo dynamics?
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I did manage to set up a channelized multi for Kontakt that used velocity to fit keyswitching into two octaves of selectors. And another one modeled on the SF UACC that mapped everything to one keyswitch and used buttons for selecting. So yes you can do it. And the Sine version of this will be somewhat easier.
 
Now that we are in 2022, and the Mic-Merge issue of BSS is fixed.

Can we expect any further updates, improvements, or expansions to this library ? or should it be re-named Berlin's Ignored Symphonic Strings :laugh:
 
muziksculp said:
Now that we are in 2022, and the Mic-Merge issue of BSS is fixed.

Can we expect any further updates, improvements, or expansions to this library ? or should it be re-named Berlin's Ignored Symphonic Strings :laugh:
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The mic merge function is fixed, however there’re weird artifacts when only using merged mic at higher register in legato articulation.

I have reported the issue and OT is also acknowledged as a know issue which will be a prior fix in the next SINE update.

So far some instruments from Berlin main and Symphonic Strings are infected, clarinet 1 to be more specific.
 
I would surely prefer using a very efficient true Purge feature, over this convoluted, and buggy mic-merge system in SINE. Hopefully they will add a Purge feature like the one Kontakt, and OPUS have. Much easier, faster, and they work with just a press of a button.
 
Alright, so am i just going crazy, or does the Sine verson of Berlin Strings sound very different (in a good way) than the Kontakt version?

Did they go back and create new recordings? Or is this just a matter of them balancing the mics out differently in Sine?

Or am i just hearing things?
 
Mike Fox said:
Alright, so am i just going crazy, or does the Sine verson of Berlin Strings sound very different (in a good way) than the Kontakt version?

Did they go back and create new recordings? Or is this just a matter of them balancing the mics out differently in Sine?

Or am i just hearing things?
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I am wondering the exact same thing. Where did the new shorts and mics come from? Why does Berlin Strings sound so much better than the 2015 walkthroughs?
 
Mike Fox said:
Alright, so am i just going crazy, or does the Sine verson of Berlin Strings sound very different (in a good way) than the Kontakt version?

Did they go back and create new recordings? Or is this just a matter of them balancing the mics out differently in Sine?
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I don't think they rerecorded anything, but I also thought they seem to have remastered the recordings in some fashion. I don't think it's just a rebalance, either, because comparing the tree mic to tree mic they sound different to me. I do think, however, that the difference is subtle and might even have to do with scripting—the crossfade points on the modwheel, how much overlap in the cross fades, etc. Some have speculated that the Sine compression might be a bit lossy, and so maybe that's a factor.
 
jbuhler said:
I don't think they rerecorded anything, but I also thought they seem to have remastered the recordings in some fashion. I don't think it's just a rebalance, either, because comparing the tree mic to tree mic they sound different to me. I do think, however, that the difference is subtle and might even have to do with scripting—the crossfade points on the modwheel, how much overlap in the cross fades, etc. Some have speculated that the Sine compression might be a bit lossy, and so maybe that's a factor.
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Interesting... Does remastering provide new serial shorts, staccato bold, martele bold and doubles? That's a heck of a remaster...
 
jbuhler said:
I don't think they rerecorded anything, but I also thought they seem to have remastered the recordings in some fashion. I don't think it's just a rebalance, either, because comparing the tree mic to tree mic they sound different to me. I do think, however, that the difference is subtle and might even have to do with scripting—the crossfade points on the modwheel, how much overlap in the cross fades, etc. Some have speculated that the Sine compression might be a bit lossy, and so maybe that's a factor.
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I also wonder what the source recordings sound like. Maybe they were closer to what we hear in Sine?

Seems like the tone is not only different in the Sine version, but there also seems to be more depth.
 
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