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Mute your brass!

Zedcars said:
Thanks so much @aaronventure. I'm going to try these with JXL Brass.



What happened to your secret trick? Is it too top secret to reveal? :)
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I'll reveal my secret! I have to admit, though, that it's time consuming, and I haven't worked with it much, yet, because it IS time consuming. I also still need to build or configure a better (and safe) front end amplifier for it.

Basically, the idea is to use a vintage Wurlitzer Brasshorn. The Wurlitzer Brasshorn was made by the Wurlitzer company in the sixties (Jimi Hendrix had two of them). It's a compression driver on a stand, and the kit includes two brass bells. A trumpet bell, and a trombone bell. So, what you do is run the output of a straight brass instrument through an amplifier into the Brasshorn, and then put any mute you desire in the bell of either the trumpet or trombone bell. Then, you mic and record the result. The neat thing is that it allows you to manually do some of the things a player would do with mutes (like a plunger).

That's the secret. Hope it was worth the wait.

I don't have pictures of my own Brasshorn posted anywhere, but here's one I found...

https://reverb.com/item/18662710-19...ass-horn-original-case-price-list-harmon-mute
I have it set up in the studio, and it looks intriguing. Before I do serious work on it, though, I need to find a good high fidelity, low-power amp to drive it. I don't want to damage the diaphragm.
 
Lee Blaske said:
I'll reveal my secret! I have to admit, though, that it's time consuming, and I haven't worked with it much, yet, because it IS time consuming. I also still need to build or configure a better (and safe) front end amplifier for it.

Basically, the idea is to use a vintage Wurlitzer Brasshorn. The Wurlitzer Brasshorn was made by the Wurlitzer company in the sixties (Jimi Hendrix had two of them). It's a compression driver on a stand, and the kit includes two brass bells. A trumpet bell, and a trombone bell. So, what you do is run the output of a straight brass instrument through an amplifier into the Brasshorn, and then put any mute you desire in the bell of either the trumpet or trombone bell. Then, you mic and record the result. The neat thing is that it allows you to manually do some of the things a player would do with mutes (like a plunger).

That's the secret. Hope it was worth the wait.

I don't have pictures of my own Brasshorn posted anywhere, but here's one I found...

https://reverb.com/item/18662710-19...ass-horn-original-case-price-list-harmon-mute
I have it set up in the studio, and it looks intriguing. Before I do serious work on it, though, I need to find a good high fidelity, low-power amp to drive it. I don't want to damage the diaphragm.
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Thanks. That wasn't what I was expecting at all. Sounds like you would need to me a mad scientist to a) think of it, and b) carry out this crazy but ingenious idea.

Hats off to you! :2thumbs:
 
Dude, hadn't tried out these EQ Presets until now, but they're good.
Here's a comparison of the CSB Trumpet, in this order:

Unprocessed
CSB Mute (yikes)
EQ Harmon Mute
EQ Straight
EQ Cup
EQ Bucket

It's funny, the Harmon Mute sounds much more real to my ears, but it also sounds kind of artificial.
But I think it sounds waaay better than the CSB Mute.
I didn't really change the MIDI for the CSB Mute, but there wouldn't be much improvement.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gtrex4fd0hzepxk/Mute Test Trumpet.mp3?dl=0
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another comparison, between CSB Mute, and the Harmon Mute Preset:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4idjtnr237590fi/Mute Test Trumpet 2_2.mp3?dl=0
 
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aaronventure said:
Some time ago I created EQ presets for FabFilter Pro-Q 2 meant to simulate brass mutes, since a lot of brass libraries either come without any mutes whatsoever or the muted content is limited. So here's a bunch of filters for your brass! Think of 'em like the simulated Con Sordino that many string libraries do these days.

DOWNLOAD

And here's a short demo (this is Adventure Brass)


Some snapshots:
Mute your brass!

Mute your brass!
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Could you reupload your fabfilter mute presets?? Or do you know where i can get'em?
 
aaronventure said:
Oh man, it's been a long time since this thread was posted.

It ain't exactly free, but check out Sordina https://librewave.com/product/sordina-mute-emulator/

It's better sounding, and has way more mutes and features than what you'd have gotten with this.
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Thank you, im low on money rn so ill probably skip this one... i get my child support every 17th (which is fkin annoying lol) maybe then i could buy it or just wait till black friday..

Does anybody got an free alternative??? idk EQ packs for Pro Q3 ? The IRs uploaded in this thread didnt work for me, i get no sound when i load them into altiverb... Maybe im doing it wrong?

BTW, hows Infinite strings doing? Your strings library will make a nice addition to my collection ;)

Hope youre doin' well!

best
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aaronventure said:
Some time ago I created EQ presets for FabFilter Pro-Q 2 meant to simulate brass mutes, since a lot of brass libraries either come without any mutes whatsoever or the muted content is limited. So here's a bunch of filters for your brass! Think of 'em like the simulated Con Sordino that many string libraries do these days.

DOWNLOAD

And here's a short demo (this is Adventure Brass)


Some snapshots:
Mute your brass!

Mute your brass!
Click to expand...

Can you please re-upload the presets? The link is dead.
 
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