JEPA
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Really last sale? is it a good move? i have to save money till end december....
50% off
https://www.musicalsampling.com
50% off
https://www.musicalsampling.com
The email indicates it is the last sale of the year, ends Nov 12th. Adventure Strings is a great deal at 50% off (got it last year). But wondering if people have the brass and use it regularly. I have Caspian Brass from Perf Samples and Cinebrass, just wondering if Adventure Brass or Trailer Brass will bring anything new to the table.
I picked up Caspian in the recent sale and it's, so far, replaced Adventure Brass because it sounds great out of the box. If AB dynamics go (p to f+) I'd say CB goes (p to ff) with CB's p a bit softer.
On the plus side, AB comes with a tuba (which CB lacks), is recorded very direct and very dry. It's fatter and muddier and doesn't have as much bite as CB. You might say it's just a rawer and less processed sound than CB, so that could be an advantage or disadvantage depending on how you look at it since you could probably eq and saturate to get AB to sound close to CB.
From a usability standpoint, AB and CB are equally responsive and easy to control and both are simply a joy to play. No keyswitches, no balancing levels of different articulations, no routing multiple tracks to VE Pro or long load times. Load a patch, play anything you want, that's it.
I can't wait until a developer starts using this style of sampling for winds.
EDIT:
I plunked out a few notes to compare them.
It goes:
Caspian Brass -- Horns, Trumpets, Bass Trombones
then Adventure Brass -- Horns, Trumpets, Trombones
Caspian Brass is unprocessed, default settings.
Adventure Brass is run through VSS2, ~10 db gain boost, ~-14 DB reverb send to Chromaverb (Concert Hall).
I'm in Logic, running with Kontakt 5 and get CPU spikes with AB. I suspect it's similar with CB, but I started using Vienna Ensemble Pro at the same time I started using CB, which handles the CPU load better.Thanks for this! You're reminding me why I like my Caspian Brass from Performance Samples. AB has some bite which can help in a dense mix, but I still think the brass would get to thick for the style of music I like to do. But I may eventually get it to have options. I'm sure layering with CineBrass or Caspian would give you some cool playable patches.
My other question is CPU. Adventure Strings has been difficult to layer in because of the CPU it sucks from the system. And I have a substancial CPU. I play a lot of libraries layered, but music sampling libraries (even with the latest update) seem to hit the hardest (harder the Performance Samples). Is this the same for Adventure and Trailer Brass?
Thanks for this! You're reminding me why I like my Caspian Brass from Performance Samples. AB has some bite which can help in a dense mix, but I still think the brass would get to thick for the style of music I like to do. But I may eventually get it to have options. I'm sure layering with CineBrass or Caspian would give you some cool playable patches.
My other question is CPU. Adventure Strings has been difficult to layer in because of the CPU it sucks from the system. And I have a substancial CPU. I play a lot of libraries layered, but music sampling libraries (even with the latest update) seem to hit the hardest (harder the Performance Samples). Is this the same for Adventure and Trailer Brass?
Thanks for this! You're reminding me why I like my Caspian Brass from Performance Samples. AB has some bite which can help in a dense mix, but I still think the brass would get to thick for the style of music I like to do. But I may eventually get it to have options. I'm sure layering with CineBrass or Caspian would give you some cool playable patches.
My other question is CPU. Adventure Strings has been difficult to layer in because of the CPU it sucks from the system. And I have a substancial CPU. I play a lot of libraries layered, but music sampling libraries (even with the latest update) seem to hit the hardest (harder the Performance Samples). Is this the same for Adventure and Trailer Brass?
If I may add my two cents:The email indicates it is the last sale of the year, ends Nov 12th. Adventure Strings is a great deal at 50% off (got it last year). But wondering if people have the brass and use it regularly. I have Caspian Brass from Perf Samples and Cinebrass, just wondering if Adventure Brass or Trailer Brass will bring anything new to the table.
I'm in Logic, running with Kontakt 5 and get CPU spikes with AB. I suspect it's similar with CB, but I started using Vienna Ensemble Pro at the same time I started using CB, which handles the CPU load better.
If you are a Logic and K5 user, there's this encouraging post:
https://vi-control.net/community/th...les-_-con-moto-cellos-now.75598/#post-4289193
Saxer says (about Performance Samples Con Moto Cellos) "CPU killer in Kontakt 5 at the active channel in Logic but runs really fine in Kontakt 6!"
That's interesting. I have kontakt 5 full but only kontakt 6 player. I did a real quick and dirty test just now in logic X on my mbp comparing CPU utilisation of AB in K5 full Vs K6 player. (please note AB needs kontakt full, the test was done quickly enough not to hit the kontakt player demo time limits).
The test was real basic - 3 tracks of trumpets, horns and trombones playing random chords. I duplicated the midi over tracks using K5 full and K6 player and eye-balled the logic CPU graph whilst enabling and disabling tracks. It did appear that CPU utilisation was less when adventure brass was hosted in K6 player.
if nothing else this has made me consider upgrading to K6 full sooner rather than later...
If I may add my two cents:
I like Caspian and Adventure Brass for completely different reasons and don’t look at them as mutually exclusive at all.
Caspian can cover more sonic territory, I would argue, and is of course a joy to play.
However, if you are going for the, er, “adventure” sound and writing à la Silvestri, Williams, Goldsmith, then I think AB delivers in spades. The trumpets really cover their end very well and are quite agile. The repetitions patch is fantastic for those quick repeating, typical trumpet figures to fill space, same for the other members of the ensemble.
It’s a focused library with a very standard/classic complement of players, recorded dry. As such, I would not use it in a bombastic trailer. It’s not meant for that. But for the style mentioned above, it does wonders and pushes you to write more ‘adventurously’.
Have Adventure Brass and Soaring Strings. Happy with both and 'no clue' which of remaining choices will enhance these best.
I kno, I kno … up to me and what I'm doing, but future needs change so fast ….
Anyone with AB & SS who can add helpful comment ?
I'm in Logic, running with Kontakt 5 and get CPU spikes with AB. I suspect it's similar with CB, but I started using Vienna Ensemble Pro at the same time I started using CB, which handles the CPU load better.
If you are a Logic and K5 user, there's this encouraging post:
https://vi-control.net/community/th...les-_-con-moto-cellos-now.75598/#post-4289193
Saxer says (about Performance Samples Con Moto Cellos) "CPU killer in Kontakt 5 at the active channel in Logic but runs really fine in Kontakt 6!"
I use VE Pro on the same computer and not separate slave, btw, and I think it's a viable solution to Logic CPU problems, though it adds a layer of complexity to the setup (i.e. routing).Actually Evil Dragon gave me some tips in Kontakt that help another library run smoother (setting multicore halfway in Kontakt). I should try Adventure strings again and test it with K6 player...
I use VE Pro on the same computer and not separate slave, btw, and I think it's a viable solution to Logic CPU problems, though it adds a layer of complexity to the setup (i.e. routing).