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Spitfire Westworld Competition SPINOFF - Composition Discussion, Advice and Examples

Only just submitted mine today, but I must say my favourite part about finally finishing is being free to watch some of the brilliant entries here! I’m so glad I didn’t listen to any before I completed mine because I would have felt severely underwhelmed with my own work 😅

mine for context;


Good luck all!

I honestly think your entry is gonna be one of the top contenders to win this damn thing. ) Everything here is so spot on!
 
I don’t know what I did here but it is my clumsy attempt of coming out of my pure orchestra bubble.



great entries by everyone so far!
 
2am here in Japan and I'm finally done! (with 9 hours to spare before the competition closes). I started a bit late with this competition, but in some ways I'm glad I did otherwise I would have spent the whole month tweaking things.

I played it straight down the line with hybrid, orchestral and musical sound design. I really tried to focus on the story and emotional arcs of the footage.

Lots of amazing entries in this forum. Would be awesome if someone from VI control won.

 
Here's my entry. I originally wanted to do an 8 bit video game music thing, but someone else apparently nailed that vibe before I could even get it started (that's one of many entries that I'm looking very forward to watching once I have a spare few hours to go through some of them). As a fallback, I asked myself what Will Smith would do, and I wrote an Irish jig.



Any feedback is highly appreciated!
 
I did mine a few weeks back but would happily listen to feedback on it. I didn't go forward with the "genre switching" as many other entries. Have been really interesting seeing all different kinds of scores. I have found my favorite out there and its definitely not mine haha :D
 
Interesting - at least 200,000 people have seen the video competition...
Lets be realistic - I would expect AT LEAST 10,000 entries regardless if good or not.
Competition ends on 3rd of June and Winner announced on the 19th June -
So they have 12 days to review all submissions. 12 x 24hrs = 288hrs to review every piece providing they don't sleep or include weekends. Impossible.

10,000 entries x 3min of music = 500 hours of music, you would need 3 weeks 24/7 listening. Impossible.
BUT if they only listen for 8 hours a day...which they won't.it would take 2 months!!!
So how do they do it in 12 days?, no one will get paid to listen to more than 4 bars of music before it goes in trash bin. Just curious. If anyone marks composition papers for a living...you know it, I know it..it will destroy you and for that reason I'm out.

I guess my assumption was that the "spitfire team" would be a lot of their employees and interns doing the first round of filtering and probably skip right to the genre switch and see whether people recognized that or not. That's why I felt like they specifically chose this scene as the challenge. but who knows. It does boggle your mind looking at the math though.
 
I guess my assumption was that the "spitfire team" would be a lot of their employees and interns doing the first round of filtering and probably skip right to the genre switch and see whether people recognized that or not. That's why I felt like they specifically chose this scene as the challenge. but who knows. It does boggle your mind looking at the math though.

More or less how I expect it to be done. If I'm listening around for good entries, I'll listen for 5 seconds starting around where they get shot at in the intro. If it's incredibly boring or misplaced, I'll move the time marker to where Caleb trips and listen another 5. If it's also boring, I'll skip again to the chase right after his trip. And if that too is boring, then onto the next video. Thus I give a video about 15 seconds of listening, plus or minus a few, to know whether it's decent or not. If it ain't decent, it ain't got a chance to be a winner, so into the dustbin. If it is good, or stands out, then (if I were a judge) I'd place it into a higher category, one that deserves more review time, probably by a different person. Etc.

I expect they'll have a pool of 100 or so truly excellent entries by the last few days of judging. Then it will be hard to decide amongst these as they will all be so incredibly good, that they'll probably start removing entries for having a mistake or a weak moment, until they can distill it down to only a handful, of which they'll pick 6.

The big judges (the named ones who are celebrities of certain standing) will almost definitely only be involved once there are 100 (or less) entries in the pool. They're busy people and there's no way they'd have time to watch all these videos even for 15 seconds, let alone to completion. So that's how I'd run the judgement process logistically. There would also be guidelines as to how the assistant judges would make decisions about musical quality, and ideally they'd have some level of knowledge of film music to be able to be critical and decide what works and what doesn't.
 
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Soooo... here comes my entry.



The competition caught me right in a time of downloading, sorting and getting to know the libraries and tools I had aquired over the past months to get ready for scoring (well, sometime in the future, I hope ;)).

I didn't have time to do this until now, so I spent the past weeks doing the digital housekeeping, venturing through my new stuff and making this little score. While it was actually great to combine discovery and practical use, it was also super difficult, as I don't even have a template yet and no experience with all this stuff...

It's probably a bit cliche from what I read here, but I still hope you like it. I am grateful for your thoughts on this in any case.
 
So, I was hesitant to even share my entry, because I feel like this was a fun step into territory that I'm not comfortable or experienced in, but I'm a glutton for useful feedback, so here's what I came up with. Budget skills, budget libraries, but an exceptionally enjoyable learning experience:
 
Owkee, so here goes!
I don't own any library's accept the freebees, so this is what I came up with!
Love some feedback!

 
My time management fucked me this month and today is the first day in weeks where I actually could work on it. But yeah one day isn't enough for me to write four minutes of music. I am not that fast ;). Also I feel this scene is really complicated. I listened to some of your entries now and I like a lot of them. But truth to be told I think this scene needs to be saved in the edit. Just by the visuals there is no tension in this scene. It all seems super casual. The cars are slow, Aaron Paul is on a drug and apparently it's a big deal, but it's really not. I don't feel like him "switching genres" does anything or adds anything. He seems a little bit out of it, but that's about it. It feels like he would have missed the shot anyway, even if he wasn't drugged. The wooden performance (pun intended) doesn't really help either imo (Only watched Westworld season 1. Is she still a robot?). The whole scene is kinda awkward imo. This switching genre thing sounds like a cool idea, but if the movie doesn't show me how cool/bad it is, how should I as the viewer get any grasp of that? (Alright yeah music, but Aaron Paul doesn't really react to the chase itself....). Btw I also feel like Wagner's Valkyries doesn't work either... . The quiet electro car sound fx doesn't help as well... . I'm really looking forward to hear the winning entry. Might give me a new idea and a new angle about approaching film, because honestly, I'm not sure what would work for this scene. So far I didn't hear one entry where music and film fuse together in a way that watching the scene feels organic and interesting. But I don't think that's the music's fault or if that is even possible.... . Anyway, looking forward to the 19th to hear the winning entry and good luck to you all!
 
Whelp, here's my entry.




I wonder if the volume of the music is too much for the FX and dialogue. Too quiet, and I felt like my orchestrations didn't "hit" enough (and harder to hear for judges). Too loud, and they drown out the dialogue and important FX. I tried orchestrating around where it made sense, but I could not for the life of me get the "car robot" voice to poke through enough for my liking. Oh well, who listens to car robots, anyways, amirite?

Good luck to everyone and I hope you all had a blast with this, it really was fun. Any feedback would be amazing! If the levels aren't good, I can probably still have time to edit it before the deadline!
 
Owkee, so here goes!
I don't own any library's accept the freebees, so this is what I came up with!
Love some feedback!


Well, right off the bat, you can't really adjust the speed of the actual clip in order to fit your music my friend (if that's what you even had in mind, who knows). It looks like you've got the clip on 1.5x speed, which may be an instant disqualification. And even if not, it just makes the whole thing absolutely silly.

My suggestion is that you take the original clip, leave it on normal speed, and then see what you can compose regardless of the competition. Use it to practice. Hit certain points in the scene, don't just write a piece and throw it on top of the clip. For example, the music should at least acknowledge the gunfire, the genre change, the turn left, etc.
 
It's time to stop tweaking it just release it into the wild. If anyone is interested, here's my submission...


Love this! Best genre change I've seen out of any entry so far. But careful man, the rules state that no themes/ideas from Westworld may be used. I'm an avid watcher of the show, so I picked up on what you got goin during that sneaky HBO closing card :sneaky:
 
Love this! Best genre change I've seen out of any entry so far. But careful man, the rules state that no themes/ideas from Westworld may be used. I'm an avid watcher of the show, so I picked up on what you got goin during that sneaky HBO closing card :sneaky:
You've also got it at 1:30... intentional or no?
 
Love this! Best genre change I've seen out of any entry so far. But careful man, the rules state that no themes/ideas from Westworld may be used. I'm an avid watcher of the show, so I picked up on what you got goin during that sneaky HBO closing card :sneaky:

Thanks man. Glad you liked it! :)

I haven’t used any West World themes. It’s all my own music. If you think I have, It’s just coincidence. I would never specifically steal anyone’s music and nor would I use anyone’s music in this competition as I’ve read the FAQ and T&C. The closing card is part of my Guitar reversed ;)
 
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