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Eric Whitacre Choir

01 - SA - EWC - Tutti - All In One
02 - SA - ASE - A Good Start
03 - SA - Earth eDNA - Epic Chamber MW
04 - NI - STRAYLIGHT - Exquisite Pulse
05 - NI - STRAYLIGHT - My Darkness Approaching
06 - SA - HCT - Forgotten Past - Ping Kong
07 - UVI - Orchestral Suite - Snare

EWC in the first part ;)

 
I have been enjoying the Whitacre choir a lot. Thank you for a great library!

However, I discovered some (seemingly) superfluous samples in the library. That is, the library could take up less space. I went through all the samples and found two mic signals that seemingly can be removed.

1. On the one hand, while the Bass, Tenor, Soprano and Alto mic signals are useful in the Tutti patches (allowing the user to boost one section above the other), that mic signal is also present in the patches which are divided by section. I did a quick bounce and it seems in those cases the signal perfectly cancels out with the close mic. That means the same information is present in both the close mic and in the specific section (e.g., Tenor). For all sections then, those could be removed since the Close mic has the same information. This would already shave off a few GB from the library.

2. Second, there is for most patches a Mix 4 mic position present in samples, but it is not available from the interface. Here again, quite a few GB could be removed from the library.

Since SSD space is precious, perhaps Spitfire should consider an update to the library with these samples removed, since I would guess this could remove some 10 GB (I wrote to their support suggesting this). For people who needs the space, you could go in the samples folder and manually remove these. It is quite easy to do. (In fact, for my laptop rig, I only kept a few of te mic signals to keep a mini version of the library for sketching)

All the best,
Kristoffer
 
Love the EW Choir. Spitfire have never made any updates to this library since it was released a year ago.

Bit of a strange one considering they always update most of their libraries
 
idematoa said:
A new update which is NKS ready and includes a Preset Editor, a multi-output mixer and optimised performance.
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Still way overpriced. I've listened to the demos several times...they don't grab me at all. I just can't see the attraction of laying out $419 bucks for this choir.....and I love choirs.
 
Robert_G said:
Still way overpriced. I've listened to the demos several times...they don't grab me at all. I just can't see the attraction of laying out $419 bucks for this choir.....and I love choirs.
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I really dig the sound of it, but I'm not really sure how i would justify its price tag.
 
I like it! Love how expressive and instrumental it sounds like and not so epic like some of the other choirs... Really trying hard not to pull the trigger :) I was really set to finally invest in Superior drummer 3 + OP SDX this month...
 
Robert_G said:
Still way overpriced. I've listened to the demos several times...they don't grab me at all. I just can't see the attraction of laying out $419 bucks for this choir.....and I love choirs.
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Overpriced compared to what? I don't think there is another choral library that approaches what EWC can do. Now, whether you need to be able to do what EWC can do is another question, and if you don't there is no reason to buy it. It's also true that EWC is priced high for a regular choir and not especially well suited to the task. But for long evolving choral textural stuff that sits well with instruments and indeed almost becomes one itself, it is really special and worth every cent.
 
jbuhler said:
Overpriced compared to what? I don't think there is another choral library that approaches what EWC can do. Now, whether you need to be able to do what EWC can do is another question, and if you don't there is no reason to buy it. It's also true that EWC is priced high for a regular choir and not especially well suited to the task. But for long evolving choral textural stuff that sits well with instruments and indeed almost becomes one itself, it is really special and worth every cent.
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We just had a topic of what demos moved you to buy the library.
EWC demos just don't move me to spend that much on a library. I think the sound is boring....and I really don't like mixing that room with other libs that aren't AIR Studios....very limiting.

At that price, I'm going Wotan/Freya, or Dominus Pro everytime.
 
Robert_G said:
We just had a topic of what demos moved you to buy the library.
EWC demos just don't move me to spend that much on a library. I think the sound is boring....and I really don't like mixing that room with other libs....

At that price, I'm going Wotan/Freya, or Dominus Pro everytime.
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Those are very different libraries from EWC. I love Dominus Pro, but it can't do what EWC can do. (And vice versa is true as well.)
 
JyTy said:
Really trying hard not to pull the trigger :) I was really set to finally invest in Superior drummer 3 + OP SDX this month...
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Well, if you are willing to wait a bit, it will be 40% off (towards the end of 2020, though perhaps summer). You can enjoy SD3 until then. EWC is on my radar to purchase, and I realy like the free Labs patch, but since I have Dominus and Genesis, the urgency for EWC isn't high. Likely someday...
 
Mucusman said:
Well, if you are willing to wait a bit, it will be 40% off (towards the end of 2020, though perhaps summer). You can enjoy SD3 until then. EWC is on my radar to purchase, and I realy like the free Labs patch, but since I have Dominus and Genesis, the urgency for EWC isn't high. Likely someday...
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Assuming SF has their May wishlist sale, it will be 40% off then as well.
 
I understand this library more and more with every interview or video with Eric Whitacre. The things he's attracted to in tones and clusters. His view of what music and sound and the human voice can do.

This is the most idiomatic to a composer a library can be. I treated the purchase like buying a PS4. None of the games on it are mine, but I want to live in them for awhile. This lets me do that.

I've made all of two pieces with it in a few months-- and maybe I feel like an imposter using it-- but it made me happy. All for it.
 
Robert_G said:
We just had a topic of what demos moved you to buy the library.
EWC demos just don't move me to spend that much on a library. I think the sound is boring....and I really don't like mixing that room with other libs that aren't AIR Studios....very limiting.

At that price, I'm going Wotan/Freya, or Dominus Pro everytime.
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I get where you're coming from. EWC seems like more of a one trick pony compared to other choir libraries out there. I guess it is in the sense that it has a very specific focus (which it excels at), and doesn't do much more than that.

I think I'd just consider EWC as a "boutique" library, and anything boutique usually comes with a higher price tag. I'm also assuming that having EW's name attached to it doesn't do anything to keep the price lower. You're partially paying for a name.
 
Mike Fox said:
I get where you're coming from. EWC seems like more of a one trick pony compared to other choir libraries out there. I guess it is in the sense that it has a very specific focus, which it excels at.

I think I'd just consider EWC as a "boutique" library, and anything boutique usually comes with a higher price tag. I'm also assuming that having EW's name attached to it doesn't do anything to keep the price lower. You're partially paying for a name.
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I think you put that best....but most of us can't afford 'boutique' libraries. The only libraries I have over $100 that I don't use is Realivox Blue and that was my mistake for not doing my research.
If I'm going to own a library that costs $419, I better be using it regularly.

But with that said....one day if I can afford 'boutique' libaries....EWC is one I could try out. I see the '1 trick pony' from the demos....and I would love to try out that '1 trick pony', but it will never be my go-to choir...and for $419 a lib must qualify as a go-to lib.
 
Mike Fox said:
I get where you're coming from. EWC seems like more of a one trick pony compared to other choir libraries out there. I guess it is in the sense that it has a very specific focus (which it excels at), and doesn't do much more than that.

I think I'd just consider EWC as a "boutique" library, and anything boutique usually comes with a higher price tag. I'm also assuming that having EW's name attached to it doesn't do anything to keep the price lower. You're partially paying for a name.
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What you say describes my experience with the library very well. I am very happy to have it, but it is a bit pricey.
 
miket said:
I'd be uncomfortable calling any VI "overpriced" when royalties are being paid to the musicians. I'll gladly pay for that cause.
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That actually is pretty cool. I wasn't aware they were doing that with this particular library.

Overpriced is such a subjective term. A lot of people think Afflatus is overpriced, but I'd gladly pay twice it's cost for it.
 
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