JJHLH
New Member
I don‘t like the term ”fanboy”, since I find it needlessly insulting, but I thought the mix you posted was excellent!
Spitfire Audio “This is London Calling” - BBC Symphony Orchestra
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I don‘t like the term ”fanboy”, since I find it needlessly insulting, but I thought the mix you posted was excellent!
Jeremy Spencer
Senior Member
Most of us are running BBCSO with success (and love it), therefore we are "fanboys". Too funny.
What i don't get is, why is BBCSO so much cheaper compared to SSO or SScO, but has more content overal (even more mic positions). I don't buy the argument "because it's cheaper to not have to have the kontakt libraries signed so it works with the kontakt player too".. sure it might help a bit.. but on the big whole, it's just a financial pocket money investment, considering the sale returns.
So, what is the catch? less quality per instrument? less quality player? special deal with BBC?
geniune question..
So, what is the catch? less quality per instrument? less quality player? special deal with BBC?
geniune question..
dzilizzi
Senior Member
Less dynamic layers is my understanding. They may have gotten a bit of a deal collaborating with the BBC also.
mralmostpopular
Active Member
We’re all going to be guessing, but I think partnering with the BBC helped keep the cost a bit lower. It seems as if they recorded less dynamic layers, as well. They have a different sound from each other, and have somewhat different target audiences.
Daniel James
o_0
Yes.
staypuft
Member
That is NOT how things went. To be honest, I was warned about a certain group of individuals and advised to let it go, so that´s what I´m going to do. Any reasonable person can read my posts and the replies I got. None of this came out of nowhere. My gripe was with Spitfire and the BBCSO plugin. It was ok to insult me for an entire month, until yesterday when I came to the realization that some of you are overprotective and obsessed about all things Spitfire, thus the fanboy observation. I get it now, not worth it...over and out.
sherief83
Active Member
Hush it!..don't tell them about that! thats the biggest secret ever you know...let them spend thousands of dollars so we can enjoy our $25 secret...
Jeremy Spencer
Senior Member
Thanks Mike! I wasn´t expecting such a thoughtful comment, really appreciate that. I´m glad the mockup resonated with you. I believe the Strezov brass bundle is on sale right now...Rogue trumpet is one of my most treasured secrets! :D
BBCSO is much more restrained in comparison BUT it has a very peculiar ´´readiness`` to it. Most instruments would earn their place in my template if not for the subpar half-baked software. I made this mockup as an exercise before I uninstalled it...headaches aside, I hope you can hear the ´´readiness`` I was talking about.
All bbc minus percussion, the hits sound like a wet cardbox so thanks a lot but nope LOL I wanted to use the anvil as well but I think they sampled an agogo instead...Wtf?! The untuned stuff is the weakest part of the library along with the brass section.
Shorts are a NIGHTMARE to work with, very inconsistent timing. Spitfire needs to sift through the samples and do a lot of fixing. Love the sound, can´t stand the inconsistencies.
Happy Thanksgiving for you and the ones you love!
ps. great Bruce Lee quote
Maybe you're the self-sabotaging type? I dunno. Your demo sounds pretty darn good to me, even the shorts and brass.
I am using a Presonus Quantum thunderbolt interface. I wonder if I should report it to Presonus?
dcoscina
Senior Member
A short little something I cobbled together this afternoon. Just received it yesterday.
-Disclaimer- This is a review copy sent to me as I will be penning a full review of it for Film Score Monthly Online.
Initial thoughts- love the sound. I appreciate that everything blends nicely. It's also nice working in a single library rather than futzing around trying to make various developer products work together as one. I am glad that it's not an over hyped sounding orchestra library. It sounds like a real orchestra and not a film score recorded orchestra. Yeah, it's good to have those but we have plenty of them so I will take the more subtle sonorities of BBC. Plus, I think the brass can get pretty loud.
-Disclaimer- This is a review copy sent to me as I will be penning a full review of it for Film Score Monthly Online.
Initial thoughts- love the sound. I appreciate that everything blends nicely. It's also nice working in a single library rather than futzing around trying to make various developer products work together as one. I am glad that it's not an over hyped sounding orchestra library. It sounds like a real orchestra and not a film score recorded orchestra. Yeah, it's good to have those but we have plenty of them so I will take the more subtle sonorities of BBC. Plus, I think the brass can get pretty loud.
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John R Wilson
Senior Member
Thanks Mike! I wasn´t expecting such a thoughtful comment, really appreciate that. I´m glad the mockup resonated with you. I believe the Strezov brass bundle is on sale right now...Rogue trumpet is one of my most treasured secrets! :D
BBCSO is much more restrained in comparison BUT it has a very peculiar ´´readiness`` to it. Most instruments would earn their place in my template if not for the subpar half-baked software. I made this mockup as an exercise before I uninstalled it...headaches aside, I hope you can hear the ´´readiness`` I was talking about.
All bbc minus percussion, the hits sound like a wet cardbox so thanks a lot but nope LOL I wanted to use the anvil as well but I think they sampled an agogo instead...Wtf?! The untuned stuff is the weakest part of the library along with the brass section.
Shorts are a NIGHTMARE to work with, very inconsistent timing. Spitfire needs to sift through the samples and do a lot of fixing. Love the sound, can´t stand the inconsistencies.
Happy Thanksgiving for you and the ones you love!
ps. great Bruce Lee quote
I have similar feeling towards the BBCSO. It does have a great sound and cohesiveness/readiness to it and everything blends together well. However, I am also finding that their is issues with the releases in the legatos and as you say their does appear to be inconsistent timing when working with shorts. It would really help if their was more control over adsr.
redlester
Senior Member
Indeed, on my puny 16GB i7 it feels like it now opens projects and loads all the samples faster than a project with an equivalent amount of Kontakt instances (either individual tracks or multitimbral).
John R Wilson
Senior Member
Thanks Mike! I wasn´t expecting such a thoughtful comment, really appreciate that. I´m glad the mockup resonated with you. I believe the Strezov brass bundle is on sale right now...Rogue trumpet is one of my most treasured secrets! :D
BBCSO is much more restrained in comparison BUT it has a very peculiar ´´readiness`` to it. Most instruments would earn their place in my template if not for the subpar half-baked software. I made this mockup as an exercise before I uninstalled it...headaches aside, I hope you can hear the ´´readiness`` I was talking about.
All bbc minus percussion, the hits sound like a wet cardbox so thanks a lot but nope LOL I wanted to use the anvil as well but I think they sampled an agogo instead...Wtf?! The untuned stuff is the weakest part of the library along with the brass section.
Shorts are a NIGHTMARE to work with, very inconsistent timing. Spitfire needs to sift through the samples and do a lot of fixing. Love the sound, can´t stand the inconsistencies.
Happy Thanksgiving for you and the ones you love!
ps. great Bruce Lee quote
Also the ROGUE Fanfare Trumpet sounds brilliant in the demos and only €25.00!! I think i'm going to have to get it. However, I'm now tempted by the brass bundle
gussunkri
Senior Member
Very nice! It is always great to hear your compositions.
John R Wilson
Senior Member
It´s a steal! I´d love an Afflatus-like brass library...Abrassus? lol @Strezov throw us a bone here...
It really is!! I've just got it, cant go wrong at €25.00. What libraries do you use from strezov sampling and whats your go to libraries?
staypuft
Member
Thanks. It´s up to Spitfire so I don´t think I will. Look how long HZS´ been out and what was added except for the articulation system. Nothing else? One of the best features of Kontakt is to be able to edit samples and save a new version...I don´t depend on devs to fix stuff. Quick and painless.
The BBCSO demo you heard is the result of me resampling hundreds of shorts RR and aligning them manually...out of the box is unusable for the action//thriller type of score I´m hired for. I was sold on the idea of having a single entity as my workhorse and concluded that I can´t work fast enough with BBCSO. There´s only a handful of guys these days who have the budget to hire a full ens on every project and I´m not one of them...can´t get cues approved unless mockups are polished to a high degree of precision.
Farkle
Senior Member
I hear you, man. I do the same thing. I have pulled all of my samples out of the factory .nki's and edited them, both new (Cinesamples, Berlin WW) and old (Sonic Implants, Dan Dean). Just much easier to edit the samples and create a new instrument, that plays the way I want it to.
Another reason I'm loath to buy new libs. I know (almost for a fact) that I'm going to have to pull the samples out and muck with them... and unless the *sound* of the lib wows me, I'm not willing to put that time in to rebuild instruments.
Mike
dcoscina
Senior Member
I copied the SSD info I received from SFA and put it on my own Samsung EVO which then went into my TB3 external SSD chasis. Very fast load times. Work flow is super great. It's almost spoiling me to use Christian's template. I just arm the track I want and then I record. No searching for sounds from my various sample libraries.
