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StaffPad - Now Available for IPad with Major Sample Libraries Available

bengoss said:
Hi guys,
Am I missing something? I just purchased staffpad for iOS and it’s terrible. The recognition just doesn’t work. I’m classically trained and I know how to write. Very inconvenient, it hardly recognizes half notes. Anyone else having issues? I think I’ll just ask for a refund.
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I don't think they offer refunds, for obvious reasons. It's a shame they can't offer a trial, but I think that's the fault of the Apple store rather than Staffpad.

I have trouble with it too at times, but it's actually kind of an amazing application once you get used to it. Watch those videos and do some practice before giving up.
 
Oh yes, they do refunds. Just write to Apple directly. I’ve done it before. I will definitely try couple of more days but it doesn’t look promising. Thank you
 
Like others have said, give it some time.. for me, when I started I didn't have a touch-screen capable computer/tablet at all, so luckily I got the opportunity to rent an used Thinkpad X1 Yoga (2nd gen). It came with a tiny small pen, which was uncomfortable to hold and use for the input. I was on the fence for other reasons (I wanted a matte touchscreen, but those are very rare to find, if at all possible). In the end, I stuck with it, got a properly thick pen (like a normal everyday pencil). That increased the comfort levels and accuracy massively. Which doesn't mean errors don't occur at all, but it's much much better. In fact, most of the errors happen either due to my sloppy and lazy writing or a rare programming quirk with the program (mistaking a grace note for a flat, for example). But like I said, rarely do I need to go back and fix something I've inputted due to the program not recognizing my intent. Sometimes, I'm even surprised when everything works out just fine after initially believing there's no way this sloppy thing I just wrote would be translated to notation..
 
bengoss said:
Hi guys,
Am I missing something? I just purchased staffpad for iOS and it’s terrible. The recognition just doesn’t work. I’m classically trained and I know how to write. Very inconvenient, it hardly recognizes half notes. Anyone else having issues? I think I’ll just ask for a refund.
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The issue is that StaffPad doesn’t care about your classical training, nor your writing abilities... (chuckle)

It expects a certain way of scoring in order to work. I know it’s frustrating at first, it drove me nuts. I’m in the same boat as you - classically trained and a decent copyist. So, I watched/read tutorials, and now it works. Would it be nice if one could just use it without learning how it wants input? Yes. But, I didn’t find it to be that much hardship to learn. YMMV, I guess.
 
bengoss said:
Hi guys,
Am I missing something? I just purchased staffpad for iOS and it’s terrible. The recognition just doesn’t work. I’m classically trained and I know how to write. Very inconvenient, it hardly recognizes half notes. Anyone else having issues? I think I’ll just ask for a refund.
b
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Same problems for me at the beginning, but with a little practice everithing gets better! It's like learning an instrument: be patient, because the application is excellent.
 
giwro said:
The issue is that StaffPad doesn’t care about your classical training, nor your writing abilities... (chuckle)
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This is true, and it’s not a good thing! Seriously! But Staffpad is actually pretty amazing, and it certainly needs more than a day or two to figure out. I think you’d have to work at it for a good week or more after watching the videos, to get a true idea.

My complaint is that I have crashes and buggy behavior way too much, but I’m starting to suspect iOS, at least partially. iPad pro still feels like walking on slippery ice sometimes. Just not loving the whole experience. I got a magic keyboard too, which is nice, but - iPad iOS is crashy, unfinished, disorganized, overweening. Bleh.
 
jonnybutter said:
This is true, and it’s not a good thing! Seriously! But Staffpad is actually pretty amazing, and it certainly needs more than a day or two to figure out. I think you’d have to work at it for a good week or more after watching the videos, to get a true idea.

My complaint is that I have crashes and buggy behavior way too much, but I’m starting to suspect iOS, at least partially. iPad pro still feels like walking on slippery ice sometimes. Just not loving the whole experience. I got a magic keyboard too, which is nice, but - iPad iOS is crashy, unfinished, disorganized, overweening. Bleh.
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One of the things I found on my (non-iPad Pro) iPad was that if I was having issues, it was often fixed if I 1-closed all apps and 2-did a complete power-down and restart, then only starting StaffPad upon reboot. It’s not ideal, but I did find it cut down on crashes.
 
BTW, on Notion for iOS, the GUI is much worse and the workflow not nearly as good or elegant, and I don’t think Notion has the selection of higher end instruments (not that I care about that so much). But handwriting recognition with the Apple Pencil 2 is way less finicky and much easier in Notion, compared to Staffpad. For me anyway. Let’s hope Staffpad gets there
 
jonnybutter said:
BTW, on Notion for iOS, the GUI is much worse and the workflow not nearly as good or elegant, and I don’t think Notion has the selection of higher end instruments (not that I care about that so much). But handwriting recognition with the Apple Pencil 2 is way less finicky and much easier in Notion, compared to Staffpad. For me anyway. Let’s hope Staffpad gets there
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Yes, I also own Notion and the recognition is much better. Almost no problems. But I like the sounds in Staffpad better. Hopefully they will improve. For me it won’t recognize half note. It just writes quarter whenever I try.
Ben
 
bengoss said:
Yes, I also own Notion and the recognition is much better. Almost no problems. But I like the sounds in Staffpad better. Hopefully they will improve. For me it won’t recognize half note. It just writes quarter whenever I try.
Ben
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No wonder you are impatient with Staffpad if you already use Notion.

Yes, Staffpad is picky and flaky sometimes, and it’s often hard to tell what it is you’re doing wrong. There are only so many ways to write a half note (or a dot or several other things), and I have gotten v frustrated at times too. But I can testify that Staffpad has gotten a lot better in terms of handwriting recognition just in the last 6 months. So as long as they keep developing it, it should get to be pretty good. Prosonus is a bigger outfit than the few people who run SP, and Notion’s been around for a long time. But yeah, there’s almost no learning curve for handwriting recognition in Notion, which is also quite a bit cheaper.

I guess a lot of us think Staffpad will pay dividends eventually. Hope so! Good luck
 
Give yourself a week and watch the videos, including the 3-hour Evening With Staffpad. And remember that it is focused on composing and not engraving.

**Leigh
 
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Is there a way to change quarter notes to half notes or to whole notes without deleting and rewriting them? Would love to see a feature like with the tempi, where you just need to hold and drag the letter to change from p to mp to mp etc...
 
Montisquirrel said:
Is there a way to change quarter notes to half notes or to whole notes without deleting and rewriting them? Would love to see a feature like with the tempi, where you just need to hold and drag the letter to change from p to mp to mp etc...
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That is how it works. You just need to press and hold and then drag left or right to change note length.
 
When working with a piano grand staff, am I right that written dynamics on the lower staff has no effect on the top staff? I seem forced to write dynamics for both staffs.

Also, is it also the case for you that any copying of the piano part erases the pedal markings?


Btw, I have only owned StaffPad for a week, but it is amazing!
 
gussunkri said:
When working with a piano grand staff, am I right that written dynamics on the lower staff has no effect on the top staff? I seem forced to write dynamics for both staffs.

Also, is it also the case for you that any copying of the piano part erases the pedal markings?


Btw, I have only owned StaffPad for a week, but it is amazing!
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You can use cc 11 to adjust the dynamics for both staffs....
Yes at the moment the pedal markings are erased when copying....
 
sundrowned said:
That is how it works. You just need to press and hold and then drag left or right to change note length.
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Thats what I thought, but press and hold and drag left or right will just play the notes pitch and moves the note to left or right. Am I doing something wrong? I am on Windows by the way.
 
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