The regular consumer world has no idea what they are missing on this forum. Love it.My wife just texted me from the front room: "Sounds like Englebert Humperdinck"
What you're hearing in the isolated vocal track is something different, like an artifact from the isolation process or a tape splice from a dubbed vocal track. In the vocal-removed track, no one is going to be able to hear the voice I hear, but I can still hear a tiny bit of it only because I know exactly where it is.I couldn't hear it in the full mix. I could hear it in the example given where it was just the voice isolated. But, I heard was "this..", in a low pitched garbled voice.
LOL!!! I should note that unlike VI-Controllers who create orchestral covers by reading the sheet music, when I create pop/rock/country cover songs, I do it by listening critically to the audio and reproducing what I hear. I sucked at it when I was younger, but after 35 years, my ears are hyper-trained to detect some ridiculously obscure things in recorded audio.I think there's no voice and you are all been hypnotized by the evil Polkasound
Hmmmm... in that second syllable I'm only hearing a note played on a '72 metallic blue Fender P-Bass with rosewood fingerboard and a ding in the headstock from when the player whacked it into a lightstand at the Fillmore East when backing up Wilson Pickett. Bass singer, not so much.Can anyone hear the bass singer in this choir who sounds like Harold Reid from the Statler Brothers? Hint... the voice is panned to the right, and you stand the best chance of hearing it if you focus on the second syllable in "people".
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He's extremely buried in the mix but he's there, mostly singing the root, but on "people" he drops the second note down a 3rd which might help someone catch it.Bass singer, not so much.
If I get some extra time in the next day or two, I'll dub my voice over the music in the exact spot where the guy says, "The shadow," mimicking the same inflection so people can hear exactly what to listen for.I checked again with closed back headphones, on my monitors--still can't hear it. Stuff like this might drive you nuts--LOL.
I'm hearing the electric bass on the V and then walking up the scale to the I. Is the vocal harmony on the V an octave higher, or same octave as the bass? I do seem to hear a doubling (that would low even for a bass singer).on "people" he drops the second note down a 3rd which might help someone catch it.
There are two bass instruments playing in unison on this recording... an acoustic and an electric tic-tac (but the tic-tac is barely discernible in this particular clip.) You heard correctly... the acoustic bass is walking up from the V (Ab1) to the I (Db2.)I'm hearing the electric bass on the V and then walking up the scale to the I. Is the vocal harmony on the V an octave higher, or same octave as the bass? I do seem to hear a doubling (that would low even for a bass singer).
Can anyone hear the bass singer in this choir who sounds like Harold Reid from the Statler Brothers? Hint... the voice is panned to the right, and you stand the best chance of hearing it if you focus on the second syllable in "people".
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This took longer - 9 times - with a little help from the SynthV-friend but now I can't unhear it.There are two bass instruments playing in unison on this recording... an acoustic and an electric tic-tac (but the tic-tac is barely discernible in this particular clip.) You heard correctly... the acoustic bass is walking up from the V (Ab1) to the I (Db2.)
The bass singer starts an octave higher on the V (Ab2)...
Ab2: "Too many peo..."
F2 to Eb2: "...ple..."
"... toge... C2
"ther." Db2
EDIT: I used SynthV to replicate what the bass singer is doing. Listen to this clip I made, and then you might be able to hear it in the original clip. (Warning, this clip is a lot softer in volume than the earlier one.)
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Apparently I'm working off the Cinderella version in Db. It seems the original is in D, but for my purposes it doesn't really matter since my client is having me recreate the song in Bb.So Db it is? Speed-down from D?
Holy Mac and cheese! The reverb on this version!This took longer - 9 times - with a little help from the SynthV-friend but now I can't unhear it.
Thanks again.
So Db it is? Speed-down from D?
From https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=humperdinck+last+waltz
Most of these are in D.
Cinderella version is in Db. The oldest one in D.
That helped and his part makes sense (passing parallel 5ths C-Dflat (bass singer) G-Aflat (lead singer) are interesting though. But listening back to the original clip, like you said, his voice is just barely detectable. I can hear him as part of the choir only on the d flat just before the clip ends. Impressive that you picked that part out!There are two bass instruments playing in unison on this recording... an acoustic and an electric tic-tac (but the tic-tac is barely discernible in this particular clip.) You heard correctly... the acoustic bass is walking up from the V (Ab1) to the I (Db2.)
The bass singer starts an octave higher on the V (Ab2)...
Ab2: "Too many peo..."
F2 to Eb2: "...ple..."
"... toge... C2
"ther." Db2
EDIT: I used SynthV to replicate what the bass singer is doing. Listen to this clip I made, and then you might be able to hear it in the original clip. (Warning, this clip is a lot softer in volume than the earlier one.)
View attachment lastwaltz2.mp3
Yes very impressive of @Polkasound ! It has something to do with a focus on a narrow frequency band. That's why the SyntV version helped me finally detect it. Your ears keep their focus on that band.That helped and his part makes sense (passing parallel 5ths C-Dflat (bass singer) G-Aflat (lead singer) are interesting though. But listening back to the original clip, like you said, his voice is just barely detectable. I can hear him as part of the choir only on the d flat just before the clip ends. Impressive that you picked that part out!
Back in the 1960s and '70s, reverb wasn't an effect... it was a musical instrument unto itself.Holy Mac and cheese! The reverb on this version!
That helped and his part makes sense (passing parallel 5ths C-Dflat (bass singer) G-Aflat (lead singer) are interesting though. But listening back to the original clip, like you said, his voice is just barely detectable. I can hear him as part of the choir only on the d flat just before the clip ends. Impressive that you picked that part out!
Thanks guys. I've had years of practice parsing audio where I hyper-focus on it and pick out the individual notes of the instruments/sections. I keep getting better at it, but my ears are unfortunately going the opposite direction with age. Funny story.... [funny now, but not so funny at the time]... a few years back I was doing some contract sampling work for another developer. Unbeknownst to me, my studio had picked up some interference from a nearby radio station one day. The interference was in the form of vocal sibilants which blended perfectly with my hissy-sounding tinnitus. I sent out a whole bunch of recorded samples with "tss, chhh, sssh" faintly audible in the background, and had to re-record them all.Yes very impressive of @Polkasound ! It has something to do with a focus on a narrow frequency band. That's why the SyntV version helped me finally detect it. Your ears keep their focus on that band.