I am pretty happy with using the Room mic for that. You can use a touch of OH to bring it a little bit closer.Tips on EQ and Mic selection to get the woodwinds to sit a little further back would be greatly appreciated.
Beautiful writing! It sounds fantastic, what legato speed are you using?For better comparison, I created a quick and dirty mockup. First with Cinematic Studio Strings v1.7 alone, then with Cinematic Studio Solo Strings layered. Now I did not exaggerate the effect on purpose. This is about the amount I would layer in for such a usage. To make clearer what CSSS contributes I have also rendered the excerpt with only CSSS.
Cinematic Studio Strings out of the box:
View attachment CSS v1.7 out of the box.mp3
Layered with CSSS:
View attachment CSS v1.7 and CSSS layered.mp3
CSSS alone:
View attachment CSSS solo.mp3
Thank you Mattia! I'm using the advanced legato. Mostly with the medium and slow speeds here. It varies a bit between the sections, depending on the line section is playing. It's cool that you can control the legato speed by velocities. I set the speeds I want already when playing the lines in.Beautiful writing! It sounds fantastic, what legato speed are you using?
Great stuff man, I tend to only use the low latency mode. I find the advanced mode near impossible to use and hate with a passion the messy looking MIDI after editing, sounds really awesome here though. Might have to give that another shotThank you Mattia! I'm using the advanced legato. Mostly with the medium and slow speeds here. It varies a bit between the sections, depending on the line section is playing. It's cool that you can control the legato speed by velocities. I set the speeds I want already when playing the lines in.
I'll post a picture of the midi tomorrow when I am in the studio again.
Don't know why we didn't think of creating this thread before... Better late than never I guess !
As a mixing tip, Joel Dollié created a plugin a few months ago called RoomWidener and it recreates the "Doubler" effect/trick he mentions in his "mixing CSS" video but it's a lot simpler and optimized. It basically enhances CSS's quite narrow stereo width but in a clever way. I used the Doubler plugin by Waves before and I've now replaced it with RoomWidener since it was released it and it's worth every penny in my opinion !
Just saying I'm not paid or anything to promote this plugin, it easily became part of my CSS mixing process.
Here's the link to the plugin presentation video :
Cheers
do you have any before and after applying the RoomWidener. Is it that significant? For the Cinematic Studio Series, you only apply this to CSS?
Wait what? I thought there were only two vib settings you could play with thanks to the new crossfade that came in v1.7.Use the vibrato control (CC2 I think). CSS has 3 or 4 different vibrato recordings (including no vibrato). A crescendo starting at no vibrato ending at the highest vibrato gives a phrase an extra portion of expression.
CSSS has only on/off for vibrato.Wait what? I thought there were only two vib settings you could play with thanks to the new crossfade that came in v1.7.
I'm aware of this, I was talking about CSS.CSSS has only on/off for vibrato.
Wait what? I thought there were only two vib settings you could play with thanks to the new crossfade that came in v1.7.
Yup, that's just a crossfade between non-vib and vib. I'm not hearing 3 or 4 recorded vibrato levels as stated.CSS / CSSS (Cinematic Studios) Vibrato Control
Personally, i start with the Vibrato set to about ~50-60% on CSS. I always keep the regions in which i automate vibrato restricted, as it starts sounding weird in the lower 30% or so, so i avoid going there. The higher vibrato values i keep reserved for key moments, so that i have another...vi-control.net
CS2 - works perfect. VERY similar approach - just 'bigger'. Depending on how much you 'mix-in' (for me often about 60-70% relative volume) - works like a charm. Bigger sound = < 80% mix of CS2 (relative to CSS)What other string libraries is everyone using to layer with CSS to get a more "hollywood" or "john williams/silvestri/horner" sound? Not anything extreme or "epic" like hybrid trailer strings, just the classic Hollywood scoring stage sound.
Yep I agree with @Rob Elliott, CS2 and CSS works perfectly together! I sometimes even use them for divisi lines, so instead of duplicating a CSS viola patch I'll just use the CS2 one (plus you won't have phasing issues when playing the same note!)What other string libraries is everyone using to layer with CSS to get a more "hollywood" or "john williams/silvestri/horner" sound? Not anything extreme or "epic" like hybrid trailer strings, just the classic Hollywood scoring stage sound.