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Austin Saxes 🎷| Musical Sampling

Finally caved and bought this last night! Haven't played around too much yet, but the soft patch of the tenor is really lovely! I was hoping it would get me into Stan Getz sort of territory, and I had fun noodling on some standards with it.
 
cfodeebiedaddy said:
Finally caved and bought this last night! Haven't played around too much yet, but the soft patch of the tenor is really lovely! I was hoping it would get me into Stan Getz sort of territory, and I had fun noodling on some standards with it.
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Me, as well, tonight. Won't get to it till Monday.
I'm hoping to hear some user demos soon!!
 
I bought them and, disappointing to report, can't make them sound very good. Smooth lines without any repetitions are okay (but still stuck in one tone); any repeated notes are an epic fail. I have all but given up playing with them. (I'm a former sax player, but this is not a case of too-high expectations.) I know demos are designed to highlight a library's strengths, but man, did they hide the weaknesses.
 
duringtheafter said:
I bought them and, disappointing to report, can't make them sound very good. Smooth lines without any repetitions are okay (but still stuck in one tone); any repeated notes are an epic fail. I have all but given up playing with them. (I'm a former sax player, but this is not a case of too-high expectations.) I know demos are designed to highlight a library's strengths, but man, did they hide the weaknesses.
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I totally agree that repeated notes are a shortcoming with this library, and - while it’s not an easy nor permanent fix - I have found success working around this by changing the pitch bend tuning of each repeated note by a smallish amount. I know I have some music I’ve been working on that has quite a few repeated notes, and this has worked out well. If I can find a clear example I’ll share it, but if you find my earlier example, there are quite a few repeated notes exposed there. I was less judicious with the manual tuning then as I am now, so this earlier example is less successful, but may prove useful nonetheless.
 
duringtheafter said:
I bought them and, disappointing to report, can't make them sound very good. Smooth lines without any repetitions are okay (but still stuck in one tone); any repeated notes are an epic fail. I have all but given up playing with them. (I'm a former sax player, but this is not a case of too-high expectations.) I know demos are designed to highlight a library's strengths, but man, did they hide the weaknesses.
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I agree - it’s not ideal for quick notes in succession, but!…

Can’t say for certain just yet (busy with other releases), but we may include an update that addresses this. Of course as a free update to existing users.
 
Duncan Krummel said:
I totally agree that repeated notes are a shortcoming with this library, and - while it’s not an easy nor permanent fix - I have found success working around this by changing the pitch bend tuning of each repeated note by a smallish amount. I know I have some music I’ve been working on that has quite a few repeated notes, and this has worked out well. If I can find a clear example I’ll share it, but if you find my earlier example, there are quite a few repeated notes exposed there. I was less judicious with the manual tuning then as I am now, so this earlier example is less successful, but may prove useful nonetheless.
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This, also, Workhorse instruments are more suited for that rather than the emotional. I was about to record an example, but besides that I suck and example would be bad, I went into a 2 hour fight with OBS and RME Totalmix and loopback :rofl: and I give up, gonna check Bandicam. In sum: Workhorse for Mr. Bungle The Girls of Porn short lines.
 
Duncan Krummel said:
I totally agree that repeated notes are a shortcoming with this library, and - while it’s not an easy nor permanent fix - I have found success working around this by changing the pitch bend tuning of each repeated note by a smallish amount. I know I have some music I’ve been working on that has quite a few repeated notes, and this has worked out well. If I can find a clear example I’ll share it, but if you find my earlier example, there are quite a few repeated notes exposed there. I was less judicious with the manual tuning then as I am now, so this earlier example is less successful, but may prove useful nonetheless.
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one thing to try is play a single long note and get the separated repetitions by moving the cc assigned to expression. I sometimes had good succes with this method. Don't have the library though...
 
Rob said:
one thing to try is play a single long note and get the separated repetitions by moving the cc assigned to expression. I sometimes had good succes with this method. Don't have the library though...
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Is that with bouncing to audio? It could be helpful to render some notes to audio, then EQ/filter them differently, give them different transient shaping, even alter the length, and same them all to a file for future use. Then wherever you need them, just fit them in on another track then delete the midi line that they are replacing.

I've been meaning to do that at some point to try it out.
 
Bee_Abney said:
Is that with bouncing to audio? It could be helpful to render some notes to audio, then EQ/filter them differently, give them different transient shaping, even alter the length, and same them all to a file for future use. Then wherever you need them, just fit them in on another track then delete the midi line that they are replacing.

I've been meaning to do that at some point to try it out.
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no, what I'm suggesting is instead of a series of separated notes having a long single note, and "play" the repetitions with cc... here's an example, with a very ordinary sax sample:

View attachment Sax_repet.mp3

the advantage is having the naturally evolving sound fragmented by the "tongue attack"
 
Rob said:
no, what I'm suggesting is instead of a series of separated notes having a long single note, and "play" the repetitions with cc... here's an example, with a very ordinary sax sample:

View attachment Sax_repet.mp3

the advantage is having the naturally evolving sound fragmented by the "tongue attack"
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That sounds great. I was thinking of changing notes - hence the talk above about pitch shifting, I think. But this is a really good effect.
 
Rob said:
yes it can be very effective, and of course much easier if you're using a breath controller...
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I've been hesitating for so long on getting one of these but I bet with all the overdubbing/layering I do it would be pretty helpful. Do you find yourself using it often? Great work on the sax articulations btw :)
 
Rob said:
no, what I'm suggesting is instead of a series of separated notes having a long single note, and "play" the repetitions with cc... here's an example, with a very ordinary sax sample:

View attachment Sax_repet.mp3

the advantage is having the naturally evolving sound fragmented by the "tongue attack"
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That sounds really convincing! Did you perform this with your wind controller or just mod wheel? I'd be really curious to see how your CC curves look like. There's a certain enveloppe "shape" created by retonguing a note that's hard to visualize / replicate without a good reference.
 
the sax patch needs to be prepared, so that it reacts to cc1 (or any other) so I put cc controlled filters and volume sliders to achieve the result I need...
 
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