Art. switching with VSL elite strings in Logic
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Nimrod7
Bill Kastanakis
Hm, not sure about the limit you re talking about. I have articulation sets with more that 3 for sure in Logic.
VSL by default organize Elite Strings in categories subcategories of articulations.
What I do is usually start from an empty synchron player adding the articulations I want, set the key switches, and then build the Logic Articulation Set.
I save the entire thing as a Logic Patch which I can reuse.
Let me know if that’s not clear, I can create a video.
VSL by default organize Elite Strings in categories subcategories of articulations.
What I do is usually start from an empty synchron player adding the articulations I want, set the key switches, and then build the Logic Articulation Set.
I save the entire thing as a Logic Patch which I can reuse.
Let me know if that’s not clear, I can create a video.
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stigc56
Senior Member
Hi!
The maximum KS Logic can accomplish is 3 and the default patch VSL Elite Strings acquire 5! That's why
I'm asking. I have the Elite Strings in my Nuendo template, but wonder how it's done in Logic. I use to spend a lot of time creating my own VSL set-up, choosing the articulations I wanted and so on, but now I want to stick with the default, less work you know.
The maximum KS Logic can accomplish is 3 and the default patch VSL Elite Strings acquire 5! That's why
I'm asking. I have the Elite Strings in my Nuendo template, but wonder how it's done in Logic. I use to spend a lot of time creating my own VSL set-up, choosing the articulations I wanted and so on, but now I want to stick with the default, less work you know.
Dewdman42
Senior Member
you have two options...
you can script the keyswitches in Scripter....or...you can reprogram the Elite Strings Synchron patches so that they are not 5 dimensions deep...
Here is a thread with some keyswitching scripts to get you started if you want to try that...which is what I personally have done and would do in this situation.
www.logicprohelp.com
(make sure to read the whole thread, the best script examples are at the end)
you can script the keyswitches in Scripter....or...you can reprogram the Elite Strings Synchron patches so that they are not 5 dimensions deep...
Here is a thread with some keyswitching scripts to get you started if you want to try that...which is what I personally have done and would do in this situation.
TIP: Scripter Keyswitches
Articulation Keyswitching with Scripter This post and thread will discuss some simple methods for sending articulation keyswitches using Scripter. The examples are being kept extremely simple in order to show the general concepts. More elaborate scenarios can also be handled. I will provide a few...
www.logicprohelp.com
(make sure to read the whole thread, the best script examples are at the end)
Dewdman42
Senior Member
LogicPro articulation Sets only support up to 3 keyswitches per articulation. not sure what you mean here, but each articulation can have no more than 3 keyswitches without custom scripting.
ALittleNightMusic
Professional Amateur
Access 3 dimensions via KS and the other 2 via CCs. That's what I do, even in Cubase.
A.G
Senior Member
Hi Stig,
As far as I remember you own AG X-DAW Art Pro articulation software.
1. You can Create articulation maps in X-DAW and press "Copy to Clipboard" button (in Logic mode).
After that you have to insert the AG Articulation Scripter and paste the code. X-DAW supports up to 5 KS and 5 CC output assignments per articulation via the Scripter only. X-DAW can store a Logic Articulation Set but only with up to 3 output assignments cause Logic is limited to that.
2. If you own a Cubase Expression Map for VSL Elite, then try to drag and drop it onto X-DAW (you will import it to X-DAW quickly). X-DAW will switch to Cubase mode automatically. After that switch X-DAW to Logic mode and Copy/Paste the code to the AG Scripter.
Here is a Video part where I demonstrate Cubase Expression Map to Logic Art Set conversion.
BTW. If you used to trigger the articulations via Logic ArtID then enable the "ID" check box in the X-DAW before copy/paste the preset to the Scripter. You can even enable "AT" (text points automation) + "ID" check boxes to enable the combo mode which allows you to combine articulation text points switching with ArtID switching. I demonstrate this technique in this Video part here:
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stigc56
Senior Member
Hiyou have two options...
you can script the keyswitches in Scripter....or...you can reprogram the Elite Strings Synchron patches so that they are not 5 dimensions deep...
Here is a thread with some keyswitching scripts to get you started if you want to try that...which is what I personally have done and would do in this situation.
TIP: Scripter Keyswitches
Articulation Keyswitching with Scripter This post and thread will discuss some simple methods for sending articulation keyswitches using Scripter. The examples are being kept extremely simple in order to show the general concepts. More elaborate scenarios can also be handled. I will provide a few...
(make sure to read the whole thread, the best script examples are at the end)
I kind of hoped that you would react
I will try to look into this!Thanks!
Nimrod7
Bill Kastanakis
You're right, Logic is up to 3 outputs. Messed that up.
I don't use the same workflow as @stigc56, I just build custom Synchron Setups, but I will fill a feature request with Logic to support more outputs, and satisfy all the potential workflows:
Feedback - Logic Pro
Apple wants to hear from you. Send us your comments and feedback about Logic Pro.
www.apple.com
Feel free to do the same, more requests, higher will get on their list.
Ben
VSL
Would be great to simply have SoundVariation support in all major DAWs one day...
Kent
sleepy member
we should start a VI-C l̶e̶t̶t̶e̶r̶-̶w̶r̶i̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ bug-reporting campaignYou're right, Logic is up to 3 outputs. Messed that up.
I don't use the same workflow as @stigc56, I just build custom Synchron Setups, but I will fill a feature request with Logic to support more outputs, and satisfy all the potential workflows:
Feedback - Logic Pro
Apple wants to hear from you. Send us your comments and feedback about Logic Pro.www.apple.com
Feel free to do the same, more requests, higher will get on their list.
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A.G
Senior Member
I have some good news for AG X-DAW owners who use VSL instruments.
Our supporter Roger Boyce provided professionally made articulation maps (an update pack) with more than 3 output assignments, made according to the original VSL instrument dimensions. The VSL ELITE Strings are included in this collection. We planed to release the new Roger's collection in the upcoming X-DAW 7.1 update.
The X-DAW Articulation presets are 100% compatible with all VSL SY Instruments, Cubase, Nuendo, Logic and Cakewalk.
Take easy, I decided to provided these X-DAW Articulation Presets here. Just download the attachment below. Here is a short demo video about the new Roger's VSL-SY collection.
Our supporter Roger Boyce provided professionally made articulation maps (an update pack) with more than 3 output assignments, made according to the original VSL instrument dimensions. The VSL ELITE Strings are included in this collection. We planed to release the new Roger's collection in the upcoming X-DAW 7.1 update.
The X-DAW Articulation presets are 100% compatible with all VSL SY Instruments, Cubase, Nuendo, Logic and Cakewalk.
Take easy, I decided to provided these X-DAW Articulation Presets here. Just download the attachment below. Here is a short demo video about the new Roger's VSL-SY collection.
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Dewdman42
Senior Member
Hi
I kind of hoped that you would react
Thanks!
Pm me if you have any probs I’ll walk you through it. It’s pretty straightforward though.
Nimrod7
Bill Kastanakis
I had the same feeling when ARA introduced. I was saying Apple is so secretive and peculiar and will never inherit something that another company developed.
I proved wrong, and I am so glad!
I don't know enough about sound variation, but if it's open source, there might be a (slight) chance...
Ben
VSL
It is!
