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I would just like to make a minor correction to everyone here. The mods HAVE stepped in. They just do so quite furtively as to have the effect of laissez-faire policy.

But after my one comment yesterday I in fact was summarily muzzled and could no longer post for the remainder of the day having had a restriction immediately put on my posting abilities.

So much for 'freedom of speech' "we're big boys we don't need to be moderated here" etc etc, not entirely accurate folks.

Anyway, just want to say hi to everyone before I'm inevitably re-muzzled and/or this post deleted. o-[][]-o
 
theheresy @ Mon Jan 25 said:
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So much for 'freedom of speech' "we're big boys we don't need to be moderated here" etc etc, not entirely accurate folks.
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Free speech should in fact trump all in society at large. As you can see you are chaffing at the slightest restriction even on this humble little blog. The Supreme Court ruled (narrowly) that this whole campaign finance issue is indeed a speech issue. Right or wrong I would rather have flag burnings etc., and free speech than any restrictions.

However! Our elections have been bought and sold for so long that there must be a constitutional provision to completely end ALL possibility of buying elections. The American people must be *free* from any manipulation of the election process. Also, I think the two party system means all the special interests split each dollar in half so we need a legitimate independent party at the very least.

Perhaps an amendment that takes federal tax dollars and distributes them evenly among candidates. Something to remove all the puppet strings so prevalent in US politics.
 
theheresy @ Mon Jan 25 said:
I would just like to make a minor correction to everyone here. The mods HAVE stepped in. They just do so quite furtively as to have the effect of laissez-faire policy.

But after my one comment yesterday I in fact was summarily muzzled and could no longer post for the remainder of the day having had a restriction immediately put on my posting abilities.

So much for 'freedom of speech' "we're big boys we don't need to be moderated here" etc etc, not entirely accurate folks.

Anyway, just want to say hi to everyone before I'm inevitably re-muzzled and/or this post deleted. o-[][]-o
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Well, for your information in my short time as a mod here and a long time a member here supporting VI, I've never seen any evidence of shushing the 'freedom of speech' (which either way is overated in any Internet forum).

I would strongly suggest you find the reasons why the restriction was put in the first place in your self, your posts and your apparent attitude, rather than pointing fingers and throwing innuendos all around.

And, btw, I've never excersized any of my mod rights, exept to resize a pic and to change a thread title (now gone to a non public part of the forum).
 
This thread is like seeing an accident on the LA freeways. No matter how many times I say I'm not going to look. I never fail in the final moments to take a quick peak.

I think its time for the cops to come and clear it up.
 
theheresy @ Mon Jan 25 said:
I would just like to make a minor correction to everyone here. The mods HAVE stepped in. They just do so quite furtively as to have the effect of laissez-faire policy.

But after my one comment yesterday I in fact was summarily muzzled and could no longer post for the remainder of the day having had a restriction immediately put on my posting abilities.

So much for 'freedom of speech' "we're big boys we don't need to be moderated here" etc etc, not entirely accurate folks.

Anyway, just want to say hi to everyone before I'm inevitably re-muzzled and/or this post deleted. o-[][]-o
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There is a difference between liberty and license and many of you confuse the two.

Over-moderating and under-moderating are flip sides of the same coin and equally as wrong. Which is why I no longer, with rare exceptions, post here.
 
theheresy @ Mon Jan 25 said:
The funniest part of the thread is that people enter a thread entitled "I hate America" and yet act flabbergasted when they experience volatile discussions and heated opinions. What did you expect folks? If you can't handle it then you shouldn't enter any threads with such a title. That's like turning on a porn channel then being outraged that you saw a female genitalia. LOL! :roll:

Come on now folks, don't you realize these threads are not to be taken seriously?
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aww the voice of a reasonable troll.. so logical.. duh guys.

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But this thread wasn't even titled "I hate America". It was "This is why I hate America".

The discussion was not a bashing of the USA but rather about a very particular issue.
 
But after my one comment yesterday I in fact was summarily muzzled and could no longer post for the remainder of the day having had a restriction immediately put on my posting abilities.
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FWIW this is the first I've heard of it. I had nothing to do with that and didn't even know it happened, let alone why it happened.

And by the way I don't think theheresy is trolling, I think he's working his opinions strongly.
 
Over-moderating and under-moderating are flip sides of the same coin and equally as wrong. Which is why I no longer, with rare exceptions, post here.
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rat-ta-ta-ta-tat-tat

IP banned.

(Seriously, do you think this thread requires moderation? If so I'm not sure which post or posts you're talking about.)
 
That could well be what happened. I just had to log in again before this visit, as a matter of fact.

In this case it was because I turned off cookies and reset my browser before and after checking whether a link in an email was legitimate. It turned out to be phishing as I suspected, and then VI-C didn't see the file that keeps me logged in (presumably its cookie).
 
Howard Dean came on british tv tonight so I thought I would watch it.

Interesting. He blames Wall St for the financial shambles and to his credit the SEC was in there somewhere too.

Never once mentioned Greenspan by name.
 
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