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Cinematic Studio Woodwinds - SPINOFF AFTER RELEASE

@Paul Cardon Makes sense. I like how the flute sounded a whole lot, but not necessarily the double reeds... and so with those breaths and the end of the first phrase dropped, the first thought was that it could have been an average or student player recorded live.
 
Paul Cardon said:
It sounds like I know CSW sounds. Been using it extensively lately, and yeah, the breaths are definitely added. They don't sound quite right to me, but I love the thoroughness. Makes sense if he's closely referencing other recordings.

Also, I think it's fair to say he was using different libraries and different techniques on those others as they're over half a year old now.
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Hi Paul, did you have any trouble with the tuning on CSW? I heard about some tuning issues early on and that made me hesitate buying them. Thanks.
 
marclawsonmusic said:
Hi Paul, did you have any trouble with the tuning on CSW? I heard about some tuning issues early on and that made me hesitate buying them. Thanks.
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Yes.

I don't regret buying it because I'm getting so much use out of it, but some of it is gnarlier than it should've ever been. High notes bending away from center mostly. Pretty sure it'll get fixed (on the usual sort of CS Series schedule)
 
Robert_G said:
5 months and still no update with the promised fixes. Great company for sound and quality, but slow as freaking molasses. The updates were supposed to be a few weeks after the release in January.
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It is what it is. They're a small team of devs in Australia in the midst of a pandemic on lockdown. I will assume the updates will be released when Cinematic Studio Percussion is released. There is not as much of a need for percussion with true legatos so I'm not necessarily in a huge rush to get Cinematic Studio Perc either. If the updates for CSS and CSW come sooner than that all the better.
 
Woohoo, update...

What's in it?​

Firstly, both Solo Flute and Solo Alto Flute articulations are now working correctly across all microphones. In addition we've added a powerful new feature, the "Low Latency" legato mode. With all the realism, and none of the delay, this mode can dramatically cut down on sequencing time and editing, allowing you to create more expressive, agile and playful melodies with ease.

The regular delayed legato is still there however, and has also been improved, making it more realistic and easy to achieve flowing, human-sounding phrases than ever before. We have renamed this legato mode to "Expressive", which you will see on the main GUI. Both of these modes can be selected with the velocity-sensitive functionality of the keyswitch, which is C0 by default. Press it at a velocity of 0-64 to select Low Latency mode, or 65-127 for Expressive.

We have also refined the tuning on a number of instruments, particularly the upper register of the solo flute. This makes doubling with other instruments like the oboe sound tighter and more polished all round. Additional tuning tweaks will be included in subsequent updates on an ongoing basis.

Other improvements have been made to the x-fading between non-vibrato and vibrato samples, and to the dynamic x-fading - especially on Marcato; there is better volume matching of the release samples to the sustains; and we also added a subtle accent to isolated sustains notes and legato repetitions played above a velocity of 64.

How do you get it?

Due to the complexity of the update itself, it was necessary for us to "repackage" the library, which unfortunately means you'll need to re-download the entire library again. Prior to downloading, you'll need to delete your current "Cinematic Studio Woodwinds" folder entirely, and then replace it with the new one, in the same location. By downloading it to the same location, that will mean you will be able to continue using the library without issue.

If you are currently in the middle of a project, we recommend NOT updating immediately. The easiest option would be to wait until you've finished any existing projects containing CSW. The reason for this is that Kontakt patches are saved within a DAW's project file - this means that any projects saved prior to updating will contain the old patches. Therefore after updating, if you wish to continue working on any projects saved prior to installing the update, please make sure you reload any CSW patches used. If you do delay updating and your links expire please drop us a note via the Support button and we'll happily reactivate your links.

Please be advised that we are expecting a bit of traffic with this release so if you could please wait a few days you may get better download speeds. Apologies for the inconvenience, please reach out to us via a support ticket on our website if you need further information or assistance.
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So, the low latency mode is added but the old legato mode is still using multiple different delay times as before? I would have really hoped for a low latency mode with zero delay, and a high latency mode with one consistent maximum delay for everything. Or did I misunderstand?
 
Zero delay is impossible if you want to have any sort of proper legato transition remaining. The low latency mode should work fine.
 
Sovereign said:
Zero delay is impossible if you want to have any sort of proper legato transition remaining. The low latency mode should work fine.
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Yes I understand, I was just a little surprised to hear that the non-low-latency mode / regular legato still has the multiple different delay times, rather than having made them all one and the same.

I wish developers had a simple switch between no delay for recording, and maximum but consistent delay for playback, where you get the full transitions for everything. I having a hard time understanding the multiple different delay times which makes it impossible to use track delay and forces you to move individual notes one by one. Why not just make them all the same (the largest value needed)?
 
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