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Is Hans Zimmer overrated as a composer?

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I was always on the fence when it comes to HZ music, but I love the process, I love how he talks about music and I love the bold and non-conventional ideas. He gave me a lot of inspiration and motivation.
 
Poor guy, Hans. I'd feel sorry for him if he wasn't supremely successful and filthy rich. Fortunately for him, he does have the liberty to not give a fuck.

Everyone's over- or under-something. 90% of all people who do anything music- or musicianship-related suck at what they do. But when you're successful and people know your name, you're suddenly rated.

HZ does what he does, and he's been damn good at making it work out for him. I believe he's sincere and authentic. Some people appreciate his music. Some don't. Who cares if it's whatever-rated.
 
Jimmy Hellfire said:
Poor guy, Hans. I'd feel sorry for him if he wasn't supremely successful and filthy rich. Fortunately for him, he does have the liberty to not give a fuck.

Everyone's over- or under-something. 90% of all people who do anything music- or musicianship-related suck at what they do. But when you're successful and people know your name, you're suddenly rated.

HZ does what he does, and he's been damn good at making it work out for him. I believe he's sincere and authentic. Some people appreciate his music. Some don't. Who cares if it's whatever-rated.
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There's that old saw "he's crying all the way...to the bank."
 
I personally like Hans Zimmer works really and i really wanted to go to "The World Of Hans Zimmer" in Dortmund, Germany in March 2019. Of course no tickets left (just a few single but i need 2).
I much prefer the not so epic and dramatic tunes. Interstellar might be my favorite so far (yes, it also has some pretty epic tunes). I often hear it in my car while driving to work.
I feel very inspired and i like the stories his works tell me, even without seeing the pictures.
Of course there are other great composers but to answer the topic.
No, i don´t think he is overrated.
 
10 years ago I didn´t even know the name Hans Zimmer.
10 years ago I got a new piano student, who already could play a bit of piano. After a short while He brought a big fat book with title music of Hans Zimmer. I asked “who is Hans Zimmer?”. Im an old fashion admire af classical music and believe it al ended after Wagner...... hey just kidding, I admire Sibelius as well.
Anyway, my student looked at me in great disbelief and some disrespect and replied “ Hans Zimmer is one of our time greatest film music composers!” After that I paid much more attention to the music and who the composer was, when I watched a movie. It actually opened a new interest in music for me. There is a lot of film music and film composers I now admire.
It certainly requires talent to be able to compose great music under such limited and stressful form as composing music to film.
If Hans is overrated, I dont know. I mean it is the mass of admirers who decides who becomes famous. We al like to admire someone. Admiring one who is know to be great, makes ourselves feels great..... I think.
 
This topic seems to pop up every now and then and the same things get said. This is entirely subjective and no definitive answer is achievable IMO.
If you like his work, you like his work, if you don't, you don't. Simple.

I wonder why this is even a discussion in the first place.

Personally, he's the reason I have any interest in soundtrack music. I bloody love him.:emoji_heart_eyes:
 
PeterN said:
Went through an hour long compilation of Zimmers compositions and, yes, while there are some interesting and creative compositions (e.g. “now we are free”), plenty (I find) is simple chord progressions with excellent sound design.

Not trying to poke on Zimmer here, and with all respect, but what is the opinion in the community?

I know Verta has criticism on the unrealistic compositions, from an orchestral perspective, but thats not the issue here really, could it be that Zimmer just does quite simple chord progressions sound amazingly good in the commercial field?

Is this question allowed to ask, or am I going too close to something holy here?
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PeterN said:
Yea, you make a point. I didnt like that word either, but couldnt come up with a better wording. Also meant to add some spice - and raise attraction - like a catchy modern news headline.
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Good trolling
 
No.
Is his music as technically advanced as some others? Maybe not, but it's often the memorable and seemingly simple stuff that's hard to come up with, and Hans is brilliant at that.
He's also an innovator. Instead of a traditional percussion ensemble, why not place 12 drummers in the same room and see what happens.. or use a church organ as the main component of a space movie and make it seem like the obvious choice. Hans does that.
 
That theme from "Inception" is a perfect example: How could one overrate a man who is able to evoke a whole universe of emotions by means of just four chords (or actually their constant alteration)? ... I mixed this and the rest of the gala concert for TV a few weeks ago, and it sent shivers down my spine every single time I heard it during the process:

 
PeterN said:
Went through an hour long compilation of Zimmers compositions and, yes, while there are some interesting and creative compositions (e.g. “now we are free”), plenty (I find) is simple chord progressions with excellent sound design.

Not trying to poke on Zimmer here, and with all respect, but what is the opinion in the community?

I know Verta has criticism on the unrealistic compositions, from an orchestral perspective, but thats not the issue here really, could it be that Zimmer just does quite simple chord progressions sound amazingly good in the commercial field?

Is this question allowed to ask, or am I going too close to something holy here?
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I think Mike wasnt´t critisizing unrealistic compositions (more an unrealistic approach to orchestration), albeit more the lack of horizontal development which isn´t neither taught anymore to its effect nor in most cases demanded, and actually nowhere to see in big blockbuster movies. Instead what I see is a lot vertical development where you pack and add more and more elements to the orchestration whilst the core of compositon stais more or less the same. Its like like saying the same over and over again.

I won´t comment on yet another HZ pro / con thread here anything because I simply don´t think that I could bring anything new to the table instead of repeating myself over and over again. However one thing I say: If you enjoy Hans music, thats good, if you don´t then thats also good but don´t waste your time telling others why you don´t like it, better be a good composer and spent your time improving your own craft and spent time with things you love and not what you hate or dislike because it is a waste of time imo.
Happy holidays guys.
 
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Dietz said:
That theme from "Inception" is a perfect example: How could one overrate a man who is able to evoke a whole universe of emotions by means of just four chords (or actually their constant alteration)? ... I mixed this and the rest of the gala concert for TV a few weeks ago, and it sent shivers down my spine every single time I heard it during the process:

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That is the face of a man who don't give a f if you think he's overrated
 
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