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Disk usage %100 in Kontakt

fustrun

fustrun

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Hey guys!

So i have recently upgraded my PC to the following specs I7 8700k 64GB RAM and disks as follows 128GB 860 EVO (OS and Cubase), 500GB samsung 960 NVMe pro SSD (Heavy Libraries), 3TB Hitachi drive 7200 RPM (2nd drive for heavy libraries), and two WD RED 3TB disks 5400RPM for all the rest of the libraries.

Now i have upgraded my machine so i could stop freezing tracks and stop from my disk usage to get to %100 however after a brand new PC upgrade i ran into this problem again and i thought that more RAM could basically solve this issue (RAM is at only %50).

I use many libraries in the projects and the heaviest one being loaded from the SSD (Orchestral), i have set my General preload buffer to 60k and it has helped but i still have them in times .. what are possible solutions i can have?
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Any more I think you just need all your libraries on SSD drives, personally. I'd buy as many as you can afford and just transfer everything over. If you really want to eliminate any issues you could always go with a slave as well to unlock more CPU power.
 
Have you dusted out your PC recently? Just wanna get the obvious question out of the way first, ha.

What SATA cables are you running from the drives to MOBO? Could you possibly be using like a SATA 2 for SATA 3 drive? Not sure if that could cause the bottleneck but it comes to mind.
 
Have you told Windows Defender to ignore your sample drives?

And what do you have your preload buffer set to in Kontakt?
 
The PC is brand new including case so no dust, i used a few cables that came with my MOBO, how do i check if they are SATA 2 or 3 (i never knew they were different .. are you sure they are?).
Windows defender is disabled and so is my antivirus program aswell.
Preload buffer is set globally to 60KB.
 
Yeah but i used some old cables aswell, ssre there really aata 2 a nd sata 3 cables? I never heared about that .. regardless any morw ideas?
 
fustrun said:
regardless any morw ideas?
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Buy a Mac?!:whistling:
Nah just kiddin (please don‘t hate me, really bad joke I know), maybe you could list some of the libraries where this happens the most (CSS, HZ Strings etc. Or so). Maybe the problem lays in the software or distribution of Kontakt etc. Instances in Cubase and not your Hardware?!
Could be that experts like @EvilDragon can help you better if they know if it is a specific/are specific libraries or not...
 
Actually cables can matter. But only if they are bad or going bad.

The 7200 RPM drives are okay, but I would get rid of those 5400 RPM drives unless they are just storing stuff you don't use. I'm also not sure how well the red drives work for this - aren't they server drives?

How full are your drives? I don't know that SSD's require the same amount of empty space as HDD's, but you need enough usually to make temp files with them. I find I have issues like this when my drives are too full, even if there is empty space. The old rule of thumb was leave 30% free, but that was before all this huge TB drives.
 
dzilizzi said:
How full are your drives? I don't know that SSD's require the same amount of empty space as HDD's, but you need enough usually to make temp files with them. I find I have issues like this when my drives are too full, even if there is empty space. The old rule of thumb was leave 30% free, but that was before all this huge TB drives.
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If an SSD is just used for reading (as in streaming sample libraries), they can be chock-full, no problem.
 
i have plenty of space left on all mechanical drives, i have a %100 disk read on a kontakt instance that reads samples from the NVMe SSD (Read benchmark scores 3000 960 samsung EVO PRO 500GB) the library is 8Dio - Majestica so i thought it might be some configuration issues.
 
I interpreted your issue as you getting a disk full message. Is that the issue? If so then you just need to clean out all of your temp files and possibly look into lessening the amount of swap files/ page filing that Windows allocates to the hard drive.
First look up how to clean your temp files for your version of OS and see if that helps.

If I misunderstood your issue I'm sorry.
 
fustrun said:
i have plenty of space left on all mechanical drives, i have a %100 disk read on a kontakt instance that reads samples from the NVMe SSD (Read benchmark scores 3000 960 samsung EVO PRO 500GB) the library is 8Dio - Majestica so i thought it might be some configuration issues.
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Ahem, 8dio and their unoptimized libraries... How many voices is that instance of Kontakt playing?
 
Ok so Majestica peaks at around 100 voices on the heaviest part of the track .. but i noticed that two simple ARK stac patches in a single instance peak at 400 voices! that is definitely an overkill .. what is the average that i should keep instruments at?
 
There's no average. Different libraries have patches of different complexity, so this will impact CPU/disk usage differently.
 
Assuming you have done the tune ups in the steinberg article already given its a fresh windows setup? Also worth using driver booster to double check your drivers are up to date and then run latencymon. Hd audio drivers, Windows defender and that malicious software thing gave me realtime conflicts like this so i uninstalled them completely which made a big difference. Just use malwarebytes instead. Also do you use asio guard and use the steinberg power plan?

https://www.steinberg.net/en/suppor...ails/kb_show/optimizing-windows-for-daws.html
 
wcb123 said:
Assuming you have done the tune ups in the steinberg article already given its a fresh windows setup?
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None of these have any influence on disk performance AFAIK.


(Also, disabling HyperThreading is such a stupid recommendation I won't even go into it. Perhaps only if you're a Cubase user because Reaper has no problems with HyperThreading for example... in fact it uses it to its advantage.)
 
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