Robert_G
The End is Near
8Dio Agitato sounded horrible on it's own
Cinematic Studio Strings 1.7 - audio examples and general discussion
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Cinematic Strings 2.0 Runs Mode / Ark 5 Playable Runs Patch/ Pacific using a combo of Trem and Trill PatchesI would be interested to hear if other libraries can; it's always good to have more options. Here's a little score. Have at it!
- CS2 is pretty noisy, but has the same fluidity and nice messiness that CSS has. I like the bigger ensemble tone better than CSS but the noise issues are not insignificant
- Ark 5 - pretty good but not messy enough? Tone is fine, but not my favorite.
- Pacific - I experimented for a few minutes with this. Unconvincing on its own, but could work in context with a full orchestra in a pinch. Favorite tone and ensemble size. I hope Jasper makes a runs library at some point.
Soundbed
Music for TV
Here is an attempt (so far) at recreating the OST for the penultimate track on the new Indiana Jones flick.
(There's also an Infinite French Horn buried in there, and some Infinite WW at the end but I haven't worked on that part yet, only the strings in this section.)
CSS with a few effects on the buss and maybe too much Berlin Studio:
View attachment Indiana Jones Romantic Strings 12-04-2023.mp3
OST, with a quick crossfade out of the previous chord at the very beginning:
View attachment Indiana Jones Romantic Strings OST.mp3
CSS with no FX on the strings buss:
View attachment Indiana Jones Romantic Strings noFX.mp3
CSS with no Berlin Studio, either (aka "out of the box" mix mics):
View attachment Indiana Jones Romantic Strings noBS.mp3
I'm still not 100% on CSS ... there's so much it does well but I still struggle with some subtle things.
(There's also an Infinite French Horn buried in there, and some Infinite WW at the end but I haven't worked on that part yet, only the strings in this section.)
CSS with a few effects on the buss and maybe too much Berlin Studio:
View attachment Indiana Jones Romantic Strings 12-04-2023.mp3
OST, with a quick crossfade out of the previous chord at the very beginning:
View attachment Indiana Jones Romantic Strings OST.mp3
CSS with no FX on the strings buss:
View attachment Indiana Jones Romantic Strings noFX.mp3
CSS with no Berlin Studio, either (aka "out of the box" mix mics):
View attachment Indiana Jones Romantic Strings noBS.mp3
I'm still not 100% on CSS ... there's so much it does well but I still struggle with some subtle things.
NoamL
Winter <3
Folks! don't forget it's in Eb minor 
The Ark5 ones sounded VERY realistic! The only issue is there's not enough accent on the beats. If that's something that could be fiddled with, this could actually be better than CSS. Interesting. I have never messed around with any of the Arks.
This cue below was part of a contest on VIC a few years ago wasn't it? of people trying to mock up those runs...
I think this is pretty good. It has the accents on the beat which is a big part of the musical attitude.
CS2 sounds great here. Just too noisy.
The Ark5 ones sounded VERY realistic! The only issue is there's not enough accent on the beats. If that's something that could be fiddled with, this could actually be better than CSS. Interesting. I have never messed around with any of the Arks.
Yes, you get a lot more momentum in real life when you interlock the runs like this. Because the players can "throw" the bow at their individual parts.
This cue below was part of a contest on VIC a few years ago wasn't it? of people trying to mock up those runs...
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Soundbed
Music for TV
I like the Ark 5 Playable Runs patch. You can adjust the accent with the mod wheel / CC1 or with Velocity, yes. There's a toggle switch in SINE in the Main tab.
Ivan Duch
Senior Member
Agreed.
Yes, that was hard to do with the strings I tested in a believable way which I found surprising, even with samplemodeling. I layered staccatos but they sounded unnatural in a line like that with the libraries I got.
So yeah, even though one might believe at first listen "yeah, many libraries can pull that off" when you actually give it a try it's not that simple to make it sound well.
NoamL
Winter <3
I did (only own the Violin I).
Just not enough accent. I also tried with the runs legato patch and was getting note dropouts, I think it might be because one of the intervals in the melody is larger than the max interval they sampled.
For my current gig I'm pretty all-in for CSS, but as soon as this thing wraps up maybe it's time to learn ARO better. Perhaps someone who has been messing about with it ever since it came out would know how to make it sing for this passage.
Just not enough accent. I also tried with the runs legato patch and was getting note dropouts, I think it might be because one of the intervals in the melody is larger than the max interval they sampled.
For my current gig I'm pretty all-in for CSS, but as soon as this thing wraps up maybe it's time to learn ARO better. Perhaps someone who has been messing about with it ever since it came out would know how to make it sing for this passage.
Rob Elliott
Senior Member
Alex = class act!
BSS rapid legato, static dynamic, no tweaksI would be interested to hear if other libraries can; it's always good to have more options. Here's a little score. Have at it!
Gagarin Moore
(formerly Page Lyn Turner)
I recently bought CSS and it’s a fantastic library. Usually I don't get impressed with libraries! After years of using EWQL I bought BBC pro and considered it just as a nice update, but CSS is a really classy product. It doesn't have sul pont etc but bbc strings can replace few bars of a music that require such techniques. Also it gave life to SStS, they play nice together, and also can use the occasional sul pont. Time for the CSW now!
Bender-offender
I was once a Laker Girl (no joke)
Has there been a fix or hack or something for the stuck notes issue? I've tried everything I can think of to prevent it but it happens too often.
gohrev
Newbie Composer
Try turning the "EXT" button off in Kontakt (top of the interface).
Bender-offender
I was once a Laker Girl (no joke)
Thank you for the help. I really appreciate it.
gohrev
Newbie Composer
did it work for you?
What a nice mock-up! Shame the glisses are not innate to CSS. You made them sound great.
As I'm waiting for Infinite Strings I'm flirting with an idea of getting CSS. I really don't own this playable string library. (I own CS2, which sounds great but the legatos in CSS seem way tighter.)
But hearing what you did with Infinite Brass there, I may still wait for IS.
I like music
Senior Member
Chances of you regretting getting CSS are low.
Chance of us all getting Infinite strings this decade are lower.
Grizzlymv
Senior Member
On my end, the stuck note happen only if I use the pedal (cc64). So I avoid to use it as much as I can and it usually works fine. But the moment I have cc64 data for a Cinematic Studio instrument, there's a very high chance that a note will stick unfortunately. Even with the latest version.
