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Is Kontakt the Best Player?

Pedro Camacho said:
This is an open call to all esteemed developers.
I do support developers as much as I can.

Please don't leave Kontakt... seriously. I have never met a success case yet (better playability, speed, reliability, ease to use, ram saving, SSD optimization (to use less ram)) compared to Kontakt.

Thank you.
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Mmh, I do understand, that it seems a lot easier having most libraries in Kontakt and I agree concerning reliability (with the exception of the old VSL-Player probably) I still don´t like Play, Engine and I´m not to crazy about the SF-Player. But I see a lot of potential in SINE.

Better playability - maybe Speed, ease of use, RAM saving - absolutely ! Even without mic merging.And with it´s miles ahead IMHO. It still needs a bit of polishing , 2-3 features are missing and of course it needs to run (much) more solid. But hey it´s SINE 1.0. vs. Kontakt 5.8. or even 6 and the last update was a huge step forward already.
 
Actually I dislike Kontakt and this is the only player that I don't like to use much. In some cases it's very obsolete (UI / UX - but I know that it's not easy to just change UI and make it all fancy, scalable etc.). Also for me it's cumbersome to set some simple things like routing. Plus I do not use even 10% of it's powers, but I needed to buy it to use certain libraries. Oh well.

I'm glad that Kontakt is no longer the one that rules them all.
 
Why post such a silly thing? Lots of devs are or have already moved to their own propritary sampler: VSL, EW, SF, OT, 8DIO, Cinesamples. And lots already have: Ivory, Superior Drummer, Spectrasonics, Real Guitar, Sample Modeling, the list is long. Limit yourself to Kontakt if you choose...
 
Agreed! Not because I like Kontakt so much though. It's OK. Because I like the uniformity. Having to learn and get used to a different player is a pain.

But I also wish NI or the developers using the Kontakt player were able/willing to make all Kontakt libs NKS compatible. I like the tactile control using their controller.
 
There's definitely some pain in the early stages of the OT and SF players.

But in the long term, Kontakt isn't being developed primarily for the benefit of orchestral libraries. And we're already seeing innovations in the OF and SF players that really do benefit the orchestral community.

OT tends to narrate the technical benefits of their player a lot more clearly that SF to be sure. SF tends to focus on narrating the supposed benefits of their website-like graphic design, which is probably not of much actual value to the kind of community we have here.

But at the same time, look at what the SF player can do in shifting between different version of the BBCSO - there's real value here that you could never do in Kontakt. True, I'd rather have purge functionality in the short term. But in the long terms I think it's very promising of greater things to come specifically designed for orchestral samples from both OT and SF. And don't forget that the SF player draws of Hans Zimmer's proprietary orchestral sample player technology.


I find Sine kind of a pain compared to Kontakt in the short term also. But in the bigger picture, I think it's great the the Kontakt monopoly has been broken, and I'm more than happy to suffer some short term pain in exchange for really opening up innovation in not just sampleing technology in general - but specifically *orchestral* sampling. Which, much as I love, Kontakt, we're just not their primary market any more.
 
I think folks have some sort of Stockholm syndrome relationship with the Kontakt GUI. It's 2020 and Kontakt is still low-res in a weirdly small window with tiny fonts. The library listing doesn't scroll properly using the Mac trackpad - I have to use the scroll bar like an animal. Stuff like that. Let's be honest. If it was released today, VIC would tear into it.

I love NI but it's clear their focus is elsewhere. Bring on the new players.
 
At this point kontakt is not going anywhere, so don’t worry about it. Half of what NI sells in sample content runs in kontakt! It will still be around for a long time. It’s already very deep.

I welcome other players too though for many of the reasons already cited. I don’t think anyone has really made yet something on Par with VSL’s sample player which is currently the best in existence for orchestra work, but maybe someone will eventually develop a general use player that is, and then we will all benefit. Ideally with low or zero licensing costs for content developers. Kontakt itself will never go that direction it’s already a huge monster with much capability but that makes it hard to change too.

New development on new tools is very welcome here!
 
It can do almost everything vipro can do plus some improvements. I do wish they would make it do those little things only vipro can do but still it does a whole lot and provides a huge amount of user flexibility to setup keyswitches, layers, etc there are lots of threads in this topic already. I still think even synchron player is ahead of the rest of the market for orchestral sample player.
 
We are talking about sample player software.
And often/always they require disc streaming to play the samples.

The more sample player software we use, does this increase the chance that the sample player software conflict with each other (who has the fastest access to the disc for streaming and who fails to stream the sample in time)?
 
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