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Orchestral Tools: Berlin Series on SINE now!

  1. Berlin Brass Kontakt Trumpet 1 Legato (Tree)
  2. Berlin Brass SINE Trumpet 1 Legato (Tree)
  3. TH Brass SINE Trumpet Legato (Tree)
  4. TH Brass SINE Trumpet Legato (Tree, FFF layer turned off)
Exact same MIDI data. Simple, mechanical test I run up the keyboard with.
What is TH Brass SINE Trumpet Legato (Tree, FFF layer turned off)?
Where do you see an FFF layer?
 
What is TH Brass SINE Trumpet Legato (Tree, FFF layer turned off)?
Where do you see an FFF layer?
Sorry, I used a dumb initialism there. Tom Holkenborg's (JXL) Brass. I'm trying to be a good customer and follow the naming change.

I just flipped off the FFF layer in the Dynamics tab in the lower-right of SINE.
 
Everyone is just posting from Berlin Brass. But what about Strings and Woodwinds? Do they have the same legato problems? If not, maybe they ran out of time and released Brass prematurely so that they could offer the Black Friday deal. I haven't downloaded it yet, but based on what I am hearing, I can't imagine that OT is going to let its flagship brass remain in this condition.
 
Everyone is just posting from Berlin Brass. But what about Strings and Woodwinds? Do they have the same legato problems? If not, maybe they ran out of time and released Brass prematurely so that they could offer the Black Friday deal. I haven't downloaded it yet, but based on what I am hearing, I can't imagine that OT is going to let its flagship brass remain in this condition.
All I've played with so far are the winds and strings, and at least in the flutes, Kontakt+Pixelpoet was way better
 
Tom Holkenborg's (JXL) Brass. I'm trying to be a good customer and follow the naming change.

I just flipped off the FFF layer in the Dynamics tab in the lower-right of SINE.
Ahhhh and I'm going thru the patches like crazy not sure what I'm missing :grin:
I thought maybe TH was Tree+Hall or something, but how can that add an FFF layer lol
 
Ahhhh and I'm going thru the patches like crazy not sure what I'm missing :grin:
I thought maybe TH was Tree+Hall or something, but how can that add an FFF layer lol
Yep, I might as well have been confusing on purpose. I've edited my original post!
 
Well there was that confusing post about Berlin main libraries hitting an unexpected delay, which had us all assuming they wouldn't hit the Black Friday target. Then they just appeared, complete.. so maybe there is something to the theory that they are works in progress.

Edit: also, hats off to the sales people deciding price points, the bundle is like 30 euro more expensive than getting Winds/Strings/Brass. You probably got me there!
 
Edit: also, hats off to the sales people deciding price points, the bundle is like 30 euro more expensive than getting Winds/Strings/Brass. You probably got me there!
Funny enough, I had Kontakt versions of BS, BB, and BWW Revive yet the SINE bundle was cheaper than just hitting up Berlin Percussion's actual page.
 
And there are weird things, like the Trumpet Ensemble Sustain Bold, which should be an FFF layer patch, sounds less bold then the FF layer of the Sustains patch :grin:
It also sounds different (like mics positions in the stereo field), thought much more beautiful sound to my ears.
It actually sound like an extra layer for the Sustains Soft, though even there its almost as "bold" as the FF soft layer.
 
Two questions about Berlin Woodwinds:
  1. Anyone with the Kontakt version of BWW can confirm the total required storage space? Specs tab only shows uncompressed size
  2. Just confirming, but Solo Woodwinds are completely separate from BWW correct? BWW mentions being able to customize ensembles, but I assume Solo Woodwinds is for exposed lyrical passges, where BWW is for everything else.
 
Unfortunately, I can only agree. Big disappointment so far. Legato in Kontakt feels much smoother.
Thanks for your review. I'll just hold off on downloading the SINE version for and continue using the Kontakt version.

BTW, for people who do not own part of/whole Berlin Series, be careful which format you choose to purchase it in.
I think while you can upgrade your Kontakt version to SINE version, but you can't do the opposite afaik.
 
Ah bit gutted, I was waiting so long and looking forward to the SINE port as I wanted to get the 4 horn ensemble from Berlin Brass, especially with the new fff layer that they recorded, but seeing the price of one patch being almost 1/4 of the whole library while on sale is a bit disheartening... It's a shame they don't also discount the a la carte instruments when there's a sale on, especially since they're already far more expensive to get individually as it is :crying:
EDU 40% discount works on ala carte instruments. Maybe look at cheap/free online courses? Downloading Horn Ensemble as we speak, 45 Euros
 
And there are weird things, like the Trumpet Ensemble Sustain Bold, which should be an FFF layer patch, sounds less bold then the FF layer of the Sustains patch :grin:
It also sounds different (like mics positions in the stereo field), thought much more beautiful sound to my ears.
It actually sound like an extra layer for the Sustains Soft, though even there its almost as "bold" as the FF soft layer.
Downloading the Horn ensemble ala carfte, interested in Trumpet and Bone Ensembles too. HAve you tried the Bones yet?
 
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