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dzilizzi said:
I believe the hatred related to the early versions of Play. I heard a lot of horror stories when I first bought it. But my first purchase came with Play 5, which has been pretty solid.
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Been using it since v3 (I think?) and often on much less powerful hardware than I do today and still always been happy. I can understand people wanting a purge function, but aside from that I have way more problems (to this day) with Kontakt-based libraries than I do PLAY. (Or, for that matter, the unfairly maligned Spitfire player).
 
I am very satisfied with Play. I have my HO Diamond template and can live with it just fine.
The more I think about Opus, the more I am interested in the "improvements" to the existing HO content. For example, the Woodwinds and the legato patches, better balance.
If nothing has changed in the organization of the existing HO patches, I see the real benefit more in improved scripting and the new instruments. The question for me is how much I am willing to pay for it.
I don't really miss anything, and for that I have enough other good libraries that compensate for what HO can't do so well.

The essential question I have to answer for myself is, will OPUS offer something I don't already have?
Without details and videos my interest wears off a bit. I also find it a bit disappointing when things are announced several times and then postponed without giving any reason. Not so confidence inspiring if I'm honest.
It's like buying a car without a test drive and product details. Who does that (yes, we all do it from time to time)? Therefore, I find it brave when someone has taken out a subscription because of OPUS.

At least Spitfire is not alone with its marketing when it comes to the critical view of some users. Just today, after listening to CDT more closely and watching the videos, I thought, I don't need that, I can achieve that quickly with existing resources.

However, there is no compulsion to act and if it is good and the price is right it is an option to buy.
 
Good thing some of us want our templates to be catered to us specifically. Why would you care what someone in LA uses?
That being said, im sure alot of LA based composers use PLAY, regardless of what one individual says.
 
dcoscina said:
In one of her library YT walkthrus she mentioned how no one has EW stuff in their templates in LA. At least for the traditional orchestra stuff, and I think she said it's largely due to PLAY . I cannot remember if that was in her Brass video or Strings...
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Brian Tyler has EW in his template, but he has literally everything in that. It’s ridiculous.
 
dzilizzi said:
Well those are ready to buy at the end of the presentation.

I thought maybe they were new videos, which would at least been useful. But they were the same old ones already on YouTube.
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Same here... I wonder why they backed out of the walkthru of Opus?
 
Am I right that the announcement that you can only upgrade by owning all four orchestral libraries (I have Diamond Strings and Brass) was last minute?

I’ve been thinking all these weeks I was going to be able to upgrade my two libraries to Opus.
 
Dave Connor said:
Am I right that the announcement that you can only upgrade by owning all four orchestral libraries (I have Diamond Strings and Brass) was last minute?

I’ve been thinking all these weeks I was going to be able to upgrade my two libraries to Opus.
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Yes I was umder that impression too. Quite suprised to read this
 
While EW are in the spotlight, I would like to query why with the iLok system, we can't sell these libraries on?. If I deactivate a product in my iLok account and someone else activates it on their computer in their iLok account, what is the problem with that?
I recently rebuilt my computer and had to do exactly the above and it went without a hitch. So in theory we could actually do this.

Who wants to buy some EW products?
 
dzilizzi said:
There's not much on the NAMM site.
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You’re right! And it’s not available, yet, to buy, I think. And many ARE looking forward to it. Do you have any of their libraries?

I did not buy any of theirs but always having mixed thoughts coz it’s another plugin. Kontakt libraries are like quick go on but I tend to think a little if it’s away from kontakt. Yet, for sure, am tempted. Maybe Opus WILL impress me.

Do you like the workflow of Play? Is it possible to make it use less resources?

I am actually asking coz every time I check their demos or walkthrus, I get tempted but in no time it goes off my mind.
 
José Herring said:
She is full o' shyte with that statement.
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Yep. East West are some of the most used libraries in LA or in the whole of film and games in general. You never hear them talk about it, but if there's one company in almost all actual working composers templates, it's EW. They have a pedigree.

You do realise that despite everything the Hollywood Orchestra Diamond as is is still the most fully featured orchestra out there with an almost unbeatable flexibility?

Oh, and who?

The magic in it is that you hear it everywhere around you. And yet you never ''hear'' it ;)

This forum is not a reflection of the real, actual working world. It's just a snapshot. And a very biased snapshot at that. Always remember that.

So biased that people here believe truly that for example Native Instruments Symphony Series is a bad library. It's not. At all. It's awesome. But going by this forum's opinion you'd think NI stole people's lunch money or something.
 
JTB said:
While EW are in the spotlight, I would like to query why with the iLok system, we can't sell these libraries on?. If I deactivate a product in my iLok account and someone else activates it on their computer in their iLok account, what is the problem with that?
I recently rebuilt my computer and had to do exactly the above and it went without a hitch. So in theory we could actually do this.

Who wants to buy some EW products?
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...and how will you move the licence to a different ilok account ?

Besides, you agreed to the license when you purchased the software (even if that agreement were implicit rather than something you actually agreed to) and therefore shouldn't be breaking it.
 
JTB said:
why with the iLok system, we can't sell these libraries on?
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Because they don't want us to do that. It might be because they fear that it would reduce their sales. It seems that by this point everyone and their dog owns hollywood orchestra and there must be plenty of people who have replaced it with something easier to use.

iLok isn't something that stops license transfers indeed. There's a quite sizable fee though for transferring (I think $20 bucks?)
 
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