Jeremy Spencer
Senior Member
I’m seeing it as $749 for the educational discount. Unless they are offering the edu discount while the promo is in effect...which would be really cool.
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Spitfire Audio “This is London Calling” - BBC Symphony Orchestra
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I’m seeing it as $749 for the educational discount. Unless they are offering the edu discount while the promo is in effect...which would be really cool.
rlw
Rod Wilson
Thanks for your kind words @D Halgren. And I too am very excited about the HZ update in the works. Thank you @Spitfire for being so diligent to push the envelope.
dzilizzi
Senior Member
If I remember correctly, they will get the 40% off the full price - so about $/£600. I was able to do it last year. This year there aren't enough evening classes I can take at my local community college. :( I may have to take some classes at a different school next year if I want to continue music classes. They used to have a bigger selection.
Bluemount Score
Senior Member
Wait, I thought it's 600 on educational discount (-40%) and 749 regular intro price?
muk
Senior Member
There's plenty of time still before the release. I'm sure this info will be available in due time. I think Christian mentioned in one of his videos that they have learned not to promise features before they are airtight. So maybe they are holding back technical informations until the beta is closed. Just to make sure there are no last-minute surprises. Makes good sense in my opinion.
christianhenson
Senior Member
Cat, I point you to the answer I gave in this video:
The library is still in development.
• Full specifications / articulation list not made public yet for fear that people buy based on this and then certain specs / artics don't make release version.
• Full walkthroughs and detailed tutorials not recorded yet because GUI not finalised by ourselves, BBCSO and BBC Studios. This is a joint venture with the BBC so requires just that little bit more of an approvals process.
I have recorded and edited a contextual video showing how I made the trailer music which will date because of the old GUIs but I think will be useful to us all as an interim video not-least because I'm sure it will raise questions which the SF team can address in future videos / text.
I can confirm though that prior to release in October all the usual suspects will be in place for you to peruse alongside an extended promo price period both as pre and post release.
We understand that at this PP it is a SERIOUS investment for people so have opted for giving people an extended promo period to consider it as opposed to just letting it drop and going "go on then, you've got two weeks before it goes full price".
The library is still in development.
• Full specifications / articulation list not made public yet for fear that people buy based on this and then certain specs / artics don't make release version.
• Full walkthroughs and detailed tutorials not recorded yet because GUI not finalised by ourselves, BBCSO and BBC Studios. This is a joint venture with the BBC so requires just that little bit more of an approvals process.
I have recorded and edited a contextual video showing how I made the trailer music which will date because of the old GUIs but I think will be useful to us all as an interim video not-least because I'm sure it will raise questions which the SF team can address in future videos / text.
I can confirm though that prior to release in October all the usual suspects will be in place for you to peruse alongside an extended promo price period both as pre and post release.
We understand that at this PP it is a SERIOUS investment for people so have opted for giving people an extended promo period to consider it as opposed to just letting it drop and going "go on then, you've got two weeks before it goes full price".
Adam Takacs
Active Member
It makes sense and I absolutely agree but I can't find clear informations about dynamic layers in the manuals of older products.
I think the number of dynamic layers are not consistent across the different instrument sections, not even at the various articulations and that is also understandable, but it's important to know. I'm excited about the details but there is plenty of time indeed. It is a great move that Spitfire has left so much time for consideration and decision. (Although I think I've already made the decision)
jamwerks
Senior Member
If the SF Player gui is not yet finalized, I'd vote for a little larger font sizes (and maybe less empty space), than what I've seen so far.
Would love to have a "BBC large ensembles" library following this main one. Things like: 3 Tubas, 3 Cimbassi, 3 Contrebassons, etc...
Would love to have a "BBC large ensembles" library following this main one. Things like: 3 Tubas, 3 Cimbassi, 3 Contrebassons, etc...
KEM
The TENET Guy
I would kill to have a 3 tubas patch in the Symphonic Series, that would be amazing.
Garry
Senior Member
Articulation list released!
www.spitfireaudio.com
Just looking through the strings (focussing on violins for sake of comparison), and comparing to SSO: 32 articulations in SSO, 20 in BBCSO (for section; 16 for leader); main difference is lack of shorts (no short 0'5, short 1'0, brushed), no measured trems and no 3rd trills (maj/min on 2nd only).
It's not a fair comparison of course (SSO is $800 just for the strings; BBCSO is 999 for the whole orchestra), but just as a point of comparison, to understand what compromises were necessarily made to be able to get this into a single library.
Comparing to SCS, no portamento, and in particular, 1 legato vs 13 legato patches in SCS! I wonder is there more to that legato patch in BBCSO that covers a broader range? Perhaps they've done this somewhat differently this time around - that will be interesting to hear more about...
Compared to SStS: no FX in violins (11 in SStS, 0 in BBCSO), in addition to those omissions mentioned above.
As Christian mentioned, they've learned a lot from these previous libraries, so it will be interesting to hear his perspective on the choice of articulations, and how it compares to the other libraries. I guess you can't expect any section of a whole orchestral library to match up to a dedicated section library. But this does make the choice clearer: do you want/need all those additional articulations (if so, then get the dedicated section libraries), or do you value the cohesiveness of BBCSO being a single library. I'm leaning towards the latter at this point.
Would definitely like to hear what that single legato patch is about, but notwithstanding this, in general I'm personally ok with the articulation list - covers my needs.
EDIT: since clarified: the legato is Portamento & slurred.
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Just looking through the strings (focussing on violins for sake of comparison), and comparing to SSO: 32 articulations in SSO, 20 in BBCSO (for section; 16 for leader); main difference is lack of shorts (no short 0'5, short 1'0, brushed), no measured trems and no 3rd trills (maj/min on 2nd only).
It's not a fair comparison of course (SSO is $800 just for the strings; BBCSO is 999 for the whole orchestra), but just as a point of comparison, to understand what compromises were necessarily made to be able to get this into a single library.
Comparing to SCS, no portamento, and in particular, 1 legato vs 13 legato patches in SCS! I wonder is there more to that legato patch in BBCSO that covers a broader range? Perhaps they've done this somewhat differently this time around - that will be interesting to hear more about...
Compared to SStS: no FX in violins (11 in SStS, 0 in BBCSO), in addition to those omissions mentioned above.
As Christian mentioned, they've learned a lot from these previous libraries, so it will be interesting to hear his perspective on the choice of articulations, and how it compares to the other libraries. I guess you can't expect any section of a whole orchestral library to match up to a dedicated section library. But this does make the choice clearer: do you want/need all those additional articulations (if so, then get the dedicated section libraries), or do you value the cohesiveness of BBCSO being a single library. I'm leaning towards the latter at this point.
Would definitely like to hear what that single legato patch is about, but notwithstanding this, in general I'm personally ok with the articulation list - covers my needs.
EDIT: since clarified: the legato is Portamento & slurred.
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L-A Desire
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redlester
Senior Member
I know, it should be much longer!
And am sure it will be now that people have an articulation list to get their teeth into...
Garry
Senior Member
Not working for me (Safari), whereas it was earlier, so I'll leave the list posted for now...
EDIT: could be while they make amendments, as noted by Christian below, so bear this in mind when look at the listed I posted above.
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christianhenson
Senior Member
I've sent some notes into the team to detail which spill mics and also mark which legatos have different legato types and are selectable via velocity.
**EDIT** Also worth noting that the leaders are separate recordings not just leader mics.
**EDIT** Also worth noting that the leaders are separate recordings not just leader mics.
Chungus
Active Member
I'd assume the portamento is incorporated into the legato patch. Possibly triggered via velocity or the like.
(Edit: I was late on the draw, but right, it seems.
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Still, again no full set of short artics on the brass/wind. (This time lacking staccatos) And with that, I've decided this library isn't for me.
(Edit: I was late on the draw, but right, it seems.
)Still, again no full set of short artics on the brass/wind. (This time lacking staccatos) And with that, I've decided this library isn't for me.
