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EWQLSO Gold Percussion Vs Spitfire Percussion

Interesting to note that this thread has more appropriately turned into a "what's a good percussion library?" one rather that what the subject line currently suggests. In fairness, I don't think SO was ever designed to be a major percussion library, so am not sure if we can really compare it to ones that are. SO is more like a little bit of many things with some percussion, and I don't think anyone would recommend or buy it just for the percussion alone.
 
LOU AU @ Fri Feb 17 said:
I am also torn. Spitfire never seams to have a sale. Black Friday came and went. Christmas, Chanukah, Kwanzaa, Festivus, New Years, lunar new year, Houseplant appreciation day, Penguin awareness day, Chocolate milkshake day all came and went (a big one in our household)
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Yes, Spitfire needs to have a sale every once in a while! C'mon, they didn't even have a sale for Festivus- now that is really offensive! :P Seriously, money is tight these days since my wife and I are trying to create a "mini me" and I usually have to wait for sales now to buy stuff for the studio. Remember Spitfire, spouses are a lot easier to convince for a purchase when you tell them how much you are saving by buying during a sale. My wife let me buy a lot of software for the studio this last Christmas mostly because there were so many killer SALES.

Anyway, just my gushing MY 2 cents.
 
EWQLSO Platinum percussion sounds great to me...but I haven't heard Spitfire. But IMHO there is not one thing wrong with EWQL percussion, it definitely gets the job done. I do look forward to Hollywood Percussion if and when it comes out.
 
playz123 @ Sat 18 Feb said:
Interesting to note that this thread has more appropriately turned into a "what's a good percussion library?" one rather that what the subject line currently suggests. In fairness, I don't think SO was ever designed to be a major percussion library, so am not sure if we can really compare it to ones that are. SO is more like a little bit of many things with some percussion, and I don't think anyone would recommend or buy it just for the percussion alone.
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no, I was comparing a library I use now to one I want to get possibly purchase - asking if it is worth the price. Not sure this comment is called for.
 
SimonCharlesHanna @ Fri Feb 17 said:
playz123 @ Sat 18 Feb said:
Interesting to note that this thread has more appropriately turned into a "what's a good percussion library?" one rather that what the subject line currently suggests. In fairness, I don't think SO was ever designed to be a major percussion library, so am not sure if we can really compare it to ones that are. SO is more like a little bit of many things with some percussion, and I don't think anyone would recommend or buy it just for the percussion alone.
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no, I was comparing a library I use now to one I want to get possibly purchase - asking if it is worth the price. Not sure this comment is called for.
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??? And I have no idea why you or anyone else would find anything I wrote even mildly 'inappropriate'. I didn't criticize you or anyone else, but simply pointed out what SO percussion is and what it isn't. Actually my comments weren't even directed at you, and I thought they were just very general in nature. Certainly no offence was intended.
 
EWQLSO orchestral percussion is really quite good. But we had limited time for the perc because we did the entire orchestra at once. Spitfire seems to be a great alternative. We are not making any formal announcements about a Hollywood Orchestral Percussion library. The woodwinds are almost done and percussion might happen, or not.
 
symphonic sphere has a close miced bass drum that has low end for days/ EWQLSO bass drums also have a pretty decent low end I find you need to tweak the dynamics so you can get enough volume out of the instrument at the lower dynamics.
 
Nick Phoenix @ Sat Feb 18 said:
EWQLSO orchestral percussion is really quite good. But we had limited time for the perc because we did the entire orchestra at once. Spitfire seems to be a great alternative. We are not making any formal announcements about a Hollywood Orchestral Percussion library. The woodwinds are almost done and percussion might happen, or not.
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Maybe instead of doing a whole percussion library at once, you could do an instrument at a time. Taking the QL violin approach. Do a full timp library, then snares ect.... stuff that isn't covered fully in SDII.
 
The perc would have to be done all at once and so it matches the rest of the series. We will probably do it, but it won't be released this spring or summer.
 
Thanks for the input guys.


I have an example and am hoping it will give you guys a better understanding of the sound I want.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aHQnDTd1y4 - this track and specifically @0.41 seconds the percussion has a very dominant and powerful feel to it which is what I am looking for. I am aware that mixing and audio processes have a lot to do with achieving something like that, but I guess my question is - what percussion library has as close to that sound out of the box?

Cheers guys,
Simon
 
SimonCharlesHanna @ Mon Feb 20 said:
Thanks for the input guys.


I have an example and am hoping it will give you guys a better understanding of the sound I want.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aHQnDTd1y4 - this track and specifically @0.41 seconds the percussion has a very dominant and powerful feel to it which is what I am looking for. I am aware that mixing and audio processes have a lot to do with achieving something like that, but I guess my question is - what percussion library has as close to that sound out of the box?

Cheers guys,
Simon
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Hi Simon,

Spitfire percussion will give you something very close to that clip, but it will obviously be up to you to choose the right mix of mics.

Andy.
 
Percussion is still the thing I use Symphonic Orchestra for the most. Thinking about it, that's probably because of legato... that's the main reason I don't often use the rest of the orchestra, alongside a general reluctance to have too much in Play. Spitfire sounds amazing and is clearly superior, but the combination of SO and those terrific freebies Project Sam used to have on their site (LOVE the toms and snares) are serving me well thus far. A real shame PS don't offer them any more... perhaps they were just too good and people like me didn't feel the need to get True Strike as a result?
 
I had completely ignored Spitfire Percussion after buying it in a bundle that completed my early Spitfire collection a few years ago, not even knowing what was in it and assuming it was not a very deep library due to being "old" and a catch-all.

Due to this library being mentioned in some other threads recently, I finally got around to reviewing and annotating it in full tonight, and was blown away by how much of it is deep, broad, flexible, and better than almost anything out there for several instruments! Even the chromatic percussion is top-notch, and for that sort of thing I usually go to specialty single-instrument libraries.

What really made me happy though was the Anvils, as I use them a fair amount and need a LOT of variety in them. No one library will do for all projects, but the ones in Spitfire Percussion are the most varied of any library by far! The newer Hans Zimmer Pro is a bit better-recorded, but it only has a single articulation and pitch, which won't always be the one I need.

The one in Rhapsody Orchestral Percussion is also quite good and flexible, but not recorded nearly as well overall. It actually can serve as a good replacement for tired old synth drum type "trash" sounds.

I'm surprised anyone would compare this unfavourably with EWQLSO Gold, but perhaps I never went deep enough on that one either. I've long been put off by the Play interface as I find it so time-consuming to figure out what's really available articulation-wise and an efficient way to quickly review.
 
The melodic percussion in EWQLSO is really, really good!

If you're on a budget, and want something different though, TS1 is still king, imho.

Spitfire's perc is also really good, but i don't think it's worth the price. You'd be better off putting that money towards Cineperc.
 
Sorry for any confusion -- I revived an old thread for better context than starting a new one, as my search did not find anything more recent that talked about some of the less frequently sampled stuff like anvils.

Mike, as your comments are from today and thus have the context of newer libraries since 2012, that gives me reason to allocate some time to explore the percussion in my EWQLSO. If I'm lucky, it's documented in a user manual, which will save time in guiding me where to cherry-pick for deeper investigations.

I have a lot of special one-instrument or one-theme libraries too, but surprisingly they often aren't as good as the bigger packages (e.g. Sonokinetic Fe, which is quite old, but I'll give it yet another go today to see why it didn't fit the bill).

I was disappointed that VSL Synchron Percussion didn't cover more than it did, but it is labeled "I" after all, so maybe a Volume II will come later. Nevertheless, unless I missed some terminology twists for the original VSL Percussion, they didn't cover some of this stuff earlier either.

I never got around to TS as it was expensive, originally in a format I couldn't use (was it Giga at first; I can't remember), and by the time the Kontakt version had arrived and also occasionally gone on sale, other stuff had come along.
 
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