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Orchestral Tools New Library: TIME MACRO

whiskers said:
normally i'd hope to see some other review videos of the library before I buy. Sadly the preorder price would be gone by then. wish they did the intro price like a week or 2 into release... hmmm
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+1 Please give it to reviewers to do a walkthrough.

Orchestral Tools makes wonderful sounding products and I might spring for this one, but the main thing that holds me back is the hardball way they do business. The price goes from 199€ to 349€ once it is released, and to my knowledge, most of their products have never gone on sale or down in price since preorder. It just feels like a brutal way to treat the customer.
 
jamwerks said:
I don't think the price will jump straight to 349€. There will probably be an "intro price" once released (maybe 250€?) that will last a couple of weeks.
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Even so, why should a consumer have to pay a 'penalty' for wanting to make a better, more informed decision on their product?

I get they're offering a discount here, but would giving copies to reviewers and keeping the intro price for 1-2 more weeks really kill their bottom line?

OT makes great stuff, but for most of us plebs, 200€ is still a sizeable amount. Would be nice to have more unbiased data to base a purchase on.

IDK, not a fan of preorders in general, you're paying before you result know what you're getting. But they do quality work, I guess trusting that is enough for dinn people.
 
whiskers said:
Even so, why should a consumer have to pay a 'penalty' for wanting to make a better, more informed decision on their product?
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They have 50 minutes of walkthroughs uploaded to youtube. I am certain that is more than enough for any composer to make up their mind on the product.

Obviously this doesn't account for bugs and inconsistencies but you can do a bit of research to help you with that (regarding the company as a whole).
 
Francis Bourre said:
It's not a penalty, you use a funny way to reverse the whole thing. 199 is a discount on the pre-order price (already discounted) offered to people as a gift that want to invest in the product before the release.
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Yeah, I know. Nothing against OT, I get they're giving you a discount. It would just be nice to hear external opinions before the price goes up. But it is business
 
I'm sure this library is wonderful...but I have plenty of Spitfire and Heaviocity textures.
Some more buyer's impressions would be helpful.
I am ambivalent. Pure pain I tell you.
 
SimonCharlesHanna said:
They have 50 minutes of walkthroughs uploaded to youtube. I am certain that is more than enough for any composer to make up their mind on the product.

Obviously this doesn't account for bugs and inconsistencies but you can do a bit of research to help you with that (regarding the company as a whole).
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No offense to the OT folks. I own a handful of their products and for the most part enjoy them thoroughly. But all of the Arks and even the Berlin series I own have some flaws and bugs that have yet to be resolved. I would say preorder under the condition that the library will likely have some oddities that you will need to find creative workarounds for.

Examples: many of the Ark 2 trem patches have bad loop points which results in loud clicking as they aren't on zero crossings. Many of the repetition patches in Ark 3 have odd tails where if you don't cut your midi EXACTLY at the right point it causes hang over that sounds like a slapback echo. The same issue of clicking from bad loop points occurs on notes throughout the various repetition patches as well. I only bring these things up because this is the type of material TIME expands upon.

If they "got it right" and took their time on QC it will make a very cool tool. But if there are problems similar to the Arks I could see where this specialty library might actually be moderately frustrating to use.
 
Sounds really nice. Very tempted to get it (my first Orchestral Tools library) although as someone who is concentrating solely on Trailer music I’m finding it hard think of what I would use it for.

Intros I guess...
 
It would be very helpful, me thinks, if someone from OT would address some of the issues mentioned above in Brian’s post. Like some others here, I feel a bit nervous regarding purchase and would like some official reassurances.
 
Ned Bouhalassa said:
It would be very helpful, me thinks, if someone from OT would address some of the issues mentioned above in Brian’s post. Like some others here, I feel a bit nervous regarding purchase and would like some official reassurances.
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I guess it also depends how OCD you are. I can live with bugs if the overall sound is good.

So many people I’ve spoken to (in the trailer music world) say they use Met Ark on everything they do. So obviously whatever bugs exist within it, can be ignored or worked around if needs be.
 
Puzzlefactory said:
I guess it also depends how OCD you are. I can live with bugs if the overall sound is good.

So many people I’ve spoken to (in the trailer music world) say they use Met Ark on everything they do. So obviously whatever bugs exist within it, can be ignored or worked around if needs be.
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Everywhere. That's it. And everytime.
 
Ned Bouhalassa said:
I was ready to pass (too dry-in your face for my underscore writing, I already have many textural libraries), but then I heard the Don Davis-ish Matrix-like brass articulations... GAS is high!
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Yes. Was searching where this sound came from....You got it ! Matrix. Great. Trombones/trumpets merge.....Matrix.
 
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