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There's definitely multiple instances of punching or splicing going on there. It sounds like the original tracks are underneath, and you can hear them between where they punched out and punched in the final takes of the two lines. But guess what else I'm hearing... there's a pronounced "s" in...

Yep. It's so buried, it makes sense that the original engineers didn't even catch it. I've played the song before in my headphones and never noticed it. Then the other day I was trying to parse the strings under the flutes, so my ears were trained on the space in between the beats, and that's...

I very rarely start threads on VI-Control, but "the shadow" was such a fun find for me, I had to share it with everyone else. I assumed everyone else would hear it too, but the fact that people still aren't hearing it even after being shown exactly where it is and what it sounds like is very...

Back in the 1960s and '70s, reverb wasn't an effect... it was a musical instrument unto itself. :laugh: Thanks guys. :) I've had years of practice parsing audio where I hyper-focus on it and pick out the individual notes of the instruments/sections. I keep getting better at it, but my ears...

Apparently I'm working off the Cinderella version in Db. It seems the original is in D, but for my purposes it doesn't really matter since my client is having me recreate the song in Bb.

There are two bass instruments playing in unison on this recording... an acoustic and an electric tic-tac (but the tic-tac is barely discernible in this particular clip.) You heard correctly... the acoustic bass is walking up from the V (Ab1) to the I (Db2.) The bass singer starts an octave...

He's extremely buried in the mix but he's there, mostly singing the root, but on "people" he drops the second note down a 3rd which might help someone catch it. If I get some extra time in the next day or two, I'll dub my voice over the music in the exact spot where the guy says, "The shadow,"...

What you're hearing in the isolated vocal track is something different, like an artifact from the isolation process or a tape splice from a dubbed vocal track. In the vocal-removed track, no one is going to be able to hear the voice I hear, but I can still hear a tiny bit of it only because I...

Unfortunately that didn't help. It's apparently too buried to enhance in any way. But even with high-frequency hearing loss you should still be able to hear it. Exactly. To me it sounds like someone sitting near or among the woodwind players leaning toward Engelbert to discreetly shout "the...

It's kind of a curse, sorry! :blush: I'm parsing the music because I need to hear what each instrument is doing, but now I'm going to be distracted listening for people talking in the background. LOL

Verbally nudging someone is a legitimate (albeit not recommended) studio technique for aiding performers who keep tripping up in the same spot due to a brain block, but it's usually kept isolated in headphones. If that's what happened here, then I'm guessing Engelbert recorded live without...

Engelbert sings "I will be remembering..." and then the flutes play A - G - F#, and it's right after they hit that F# you can hear someone quickly saying "The shadow!"

I was listening to the studio recording of The Shadow of Your Smile by Engelbert Humperdinck, and my fine-tuned engineer ears caught something funny. It's so faint I had to put on headphones to figure out what it was. Listen very closely and you'll hear someone in the background feeding...

I see where you're coming from now. If you negotiate a total buyout with a movie producer relinquishing everything (song and sound recording copyrights, royalties, credits) you'll still be the only person on earth who can turn to a friend during the movie and say, "I actually wrote that." But...

Of course variables like this can be negotiated. I should have clarified that a total buyout is a real thing, where you sell all rights to the music, take the money to the bank, and that's the end of it.

You can choose to sell the music in a buyout transaction, giving the other party full rights to do whatever they want with it. They'll own it as if they created it. You'll have no more rights to that music than your next door neighbor. Yes, that is called licensing. But you also have the option...

Couldn't have happened to a better guy. Congrats!

That does make sense, but at the same time, the vast majority of legitimate artists on Spotify are not famous. They don't have huge followings. They're obscure, like me. Spotify is fixing their illegitimate track problem by sticking it the majority of the world's legitimate artists. Another way...

For a lot of indie artists, the per-stream royalty rates are not a major factor because it's only a few dollars difference per year. For me, royalties across all platforms tend to hover between $0.01 and $.0001. The advantage to Spotify, in my opinion, is its reach. It has a lot more...

Then I'll pull my songs from those services as well.

I pulled 100% of my music off Spotify. A total of 60 tracks. If I stayed on Spotify and a track didn't get 1,000 plays, I'd feel like a pawn for bending over while Spotify exploited my music to grease the palms of their major label investors. And if I stayed on Spotify and a track did get 1,000...

So much of the sound comes from the playing technique. If you can mirror that style of playing, I'd think the clarinet reeds of any wetter sounding accordion should do the trick pretty well, whether it's a piano accordion or button box. If you listen to the [cringeworthy] demo song "El Flaco"...

I've been playing in nursing homes for 30+ years. There is no standard among them for how they hire entertainment, how much they pay, or how they pay, but most nursing homes seem to fall into one of two categories: ones that have a ridiculously small, fixed budget for entertainment that hasn't...

One library you definitely want to check out is Hoard Picked Acoustic by Musical Sampling. Unlike other guitar libraries, it specializes in a lighter sound.

8Dio's Fire Sax has a vibrato patch that sounds close to what you hear in the Guy Lombardo clip, and it sounds authentic, but chances are you'll find it a bit too rough around the edges for that genre of music.

Sssshhhh! We accordionists don't want the whole world trying to cash in on this goldmine. :grin:

Earlier this year someone on VI-Control made a witty comment about how all of us composers should flood the internet with tracks made from nothing but ukuleles, xylophones, and hand claps. Whether AI is looking for whimsical, epic, ethereal, or dystopian, everything it spits out will sound like...

Researching and analyzing all of the tools associated with DAW composing, like computers and sample libraries, are almost entirely left-brained activities. For many left-brained people -- of which there are a great many on VI-Control [you'd be amazed how many members work in Information...

The EP dropped on all the digital platforms today, so the full songs are available: 1. You Got It All - featuring Sydney Burris (Austin, TX) 2. I Wanna Dance with Somebody (Who Loves Me) - featuring Josie Day (San Diego, CA) 3. Look Away (my own acoustic arrangement) - featuring Aaron J...

Hello and welcome, from another Tom from Wisconsin!

Just a heads up... even though my Holiday Sale will continue through the end of the month, there is only one week left for sales to benefit the cat shelter. I specialize in instruments that were manufactured and tuned for polka music. My instruments are intentionally very basic, but what sets...

I wouldn't either. There's only one power on earth big enough to sway Spotify, and that's Taylor Swift. If she were to make a public statement demanding that Spotify create an opt-out for her and her label so that they don't make money off the backs of obscure, hard-working, indie artists, it...

I've talked to some fellow musicians about Spotify's new royalty strategy, and to my disappointment, everyone is choosing to look at it from the monetary point of view: "I'm only losing a couple bucks, so it's no big deal." But as for me, principle is everything, and I'm seeing a big moral...

I think that's probably the case here, since his decision not to mention the vendor and product doesn't help any of us. Regardless, in the OP's defense, I have witnessed (I think twice over the years) where a third party seller had neglected to mention iLok in the requirements. It's pretty rare...

As someone who does not purchase any products that use iLok, my experience has taught me to do my homework before making any purchase on any site. I occasionally buy products from discount sites like AudioPluginDeals and VST Buzz. I can't remember which site it was, but I've noticed iLok is...

Congrats on a brilliant library. It's downloading to my PC as I write this.

I'm surprised Spotify didn't offer them the option to continue working for free while their salaries got pooled together and divided up among the executives.

In a Spotify board meeting: Daniel Ek: "So what do you guys think of my new plan? I got the idea by reading this really cool story called Robin Hood!" [A board member leans over and whispers something in Daniel's ear] Daniel is faintly overheard muttering back to the board member, "Huh...

An important point is being overlooked here. According to the article, Spotify will not be keeping your royalty money — they'll be giving it away to their more popular artists. I just released an EP of '80s pop tunes three days ago. It will be going on Spotify December 15. I poured well over...

I'm happy to announce the upcoming release of my latest studio project, "Back to the '80s." This fall, I spent over a hundred hours in the studio meticulously recreating four memorable pop songs from my teenage years, and paired them with vocalists who could deliver the energy and mood of the...

The product page will specifically say whether or not the library requires the full version of Kontakt. When developers pay Native Instruments for a license that makes their libraries work in the free Kontakt Player, that library will work in both Kontakt Player and the full version of Kontakt...

This is an important point, because it sheds light on something that can't be refuted. If you enjoy a piece of art, music, or video, and then come to learn it was created by AI, you can then choose to hate it. But what about that brief moment when you didn't know? The average person on the...

That absolutely horrid vocal performance and creepy, disfigured avatar aside, your friend is correct in that commercial songwriting will be increasingly relegated to AI. And AI will get better at it. It's already at the point where human-written songs and AI-written songs are indistinguishable...

I agree with this wholeheartedly. VI-Control may be a film music mansion, but we pop/rock/country VI musicians have never been unwelcome here. Even though our topics are not as popular and can get quickly buried and forgotten under string library threads, we still enjoy discussing and sharing...

I saw that, too, but that idea would only work as long as there were someone willing to run the newly spun-off forum.

No, it would take a lot longer than a month. I'm thinking about the health of forum long term... over the course of years. The orchestral/trailer niche of VI-C is just a drop in the bucket compared to the vast world of bedroom EDM producers. If VI-C were to play down its specialization in...

So there were actually 3 emails in 30 days if you include the product update. That may be nothing compared to companies like 8Dio or Waves, but it can still be enough to trigger a "WTF, Bunker Samples again?!?" reaction and a knee-jerk smash of the unsubscribe button. You're a small dev, but...

Yes, and it's a great tool. I have a few subforums and probably around 1,000 threads on Ignore. But going back to the SynthV subforum, I think it just made more sense to hide the subforum than to expect 95% of the membership to put it on Ignore. I can see the same thing happening with any...

Maybe we should create a polka section, too, because I'd be more than willing to teach drummers that in the polka music, snares absolutely do not play the melody. This is actually the crux of the issue. I love this forum because I'm a voracious user of virtual instruments, but I have very...

I'm not trying to derail the thread, but I just want to welcome you to VI-Control. SoundBetter has been my most indispensable resource for vocalists for a few years now. I've hired around a dozen, and currently have an EP in production with three vocalists hired through SoundBetter. In the rare...

VI-Control was founded so that "those who use MIDI Mockup to score for film, TV, movie trailers, video games and documentaries could congregate, share ideas, collaborate, network and create great music." That doesn't automatically omit non-orchestral instrument libraries, but it obviously and...

This is a tough call. I like the idea of having a home for pop/country/rock VI musicians. I'd most definitely use it, because I'm not a composer; I'm a songwriter. I don't create mockups; I produce songs. Although I use VI libraries extensively, I don't fit in with the orchestral discussions on...

A few years ago I spent several weeks researching choir libraries. I decided on Voxos 2 (now known as just Voxos) because it covers all the bases and the GUI is built the way I like it. But like any library, Voxos isn't the best at everything, which is why I later bought Oceania, Insolidus, and...

Also check out SoundBetter: https://soundbetter.com/s/piano

It only works when it influences someone to watch the video. I can assure you I didn't watch any of those videos. I instinctively pass over videos with cookie-cutter thumbnails because to me, those thumbnails say, "It's more important for me to become popular than to provide you with meaningful...

I remember the first time I stumbled across a created thumbnail on YouTube. It was for a monster truck. The image depicted in the thumbnail wasn't found anywhere in the video, and it ticked me off enough that I reported the video. I obviously had no idea I was on the tip of an iceberg...

I almost died... BUT THEN THIS HAPPENED...

I'm working on the production of an EP of '80s pop music covers, and was having trouble finding the perfect drum sounds in any of my other libraries. A few weeks ago I bought Sequel II and found the sounds I was looking for. It's a fantastic collection.

Happy November, everyone! Instead of running a traditional Black Friday sale this year, I'm discounting my instruments 50% through the entire month of November. And from now until December 19, half of the proceeds from every sale will be donated to a local non-profit, no-kill, all-volunteer cat...

I guessed all the instruments, but then I looked at the spoiler. I think what you meant to ask is... can you guess these solo instrument libraries?

Judging by the different sounds and how the vibrato varies with pitch, the lower notes sound like a reed organ sound being played on a mellotron, and the high notes sound like an old electronic organ that was recorded on a sampler.

The agape mouth may be an effective business strategy, but the price one pays is looking like an undignified fool to their family, friends, and the general public. You couldn't pay me any amount of money to present myself this way:

Yes, but the problem is that Pianoverse may default to selecting an undesirable (or in my case, non-existent) folder for its sound source. The sound source folder in Pianoverse and the sound installation folder in the Product Manager must match, otherwise the installation of sounds will throw...

Next time we want to buy a plugin from IK Multimedia, we should walk into one of their buildings with the correct amount in change... mixed in with about fifteen pounds of miscellaneous foreign coins, tokens, and slugs. "Your money's in there. Just ignore the coins you don't want. Thanks. Bye."

Andrea is a reputable person, and I'm pretty sure Pettinhouse a one-man operation, so my guess is that he is away temporarily.

It's a muscle memory misfire. I've made the same "now/not" typo many times. Unfortunately its a typo that often carries a message opposite of what was intended. I'm now kidding. Trust me not. Talk about muscle memory misfires, there's one particular typo I see all the time in my music circuit...

I got the NY Grand S274 earlier today. To give you an idea of how badly I wanted to download and play this piano, a couple weeks ago I received a letter from Spectrum saying that on October 7 (tomorrow) they would be increasing my internet speed from 20mb/s to 300mb/s. I couldn't wait. It took...

It looks like a typo to me. I'm guessing it should have been "now downloadable".

This is good info to have, thank you. A sampled mandolin could work with less samples, but it wouldn't sound as good, especially lower on the keyboard. Like you, I'm glad to see ISW didn't take that shortcut. I just pulled the trigger on this library so I can't wait to run through it.

Same here. Around age 45, two things happened: I suddenly needed reading glasses, and tinnitus kicked in. I got it in my left ear because I used to crank a hotspot monitor pretty close to my head so that I could hear myself over the rest of my band. And within just the last few weeks, tinnitus...

Is that true? I read that every string was sampled up to the 15th fret, but I couldn't find info confirming that every fret was sampled up to the 15th fret. This library release totally slipped past me. I'll have to take a closer look. I like my folk instruments. Thanks for bumping the thread. :)

I was thrilled to read IK's response. 14-20 layers allays any concerns I had. Couple that with their sampling robotics and dynamic response calibration, Pianoverse sounds like a true competitor. I want to thank @IKMultimedia for offering up the info some of us demanding composers were asking...

I own several Musical Sampling libraries. I picked up this guitar library a couple nights ago. I just so happen to be working on an all-acoustic rendition of a Chicago pop song from the 1980s. I dropped this library into the project because I wanted a good, fresh-sounding acoustic guitar solo...

You have passed the final test. Congratulations. :grin:

Thank you. This is the response I'd been waiting for. It restores my confidence in the product. Pianoverse is back on the table as a potential 2023 purchase. True story... an unrelated library came out a couple days ago which I bought. I was experimenting with it on a project and kept hearing...

If you had to record an exposed, dynamic, emotional piece on a piano and you could choose between two versions of the same library — one with two sampled velocities and one with ten sampled velocities — which would you choose? The number of sampled velocities doesn't automatically determine the...

That may be a solution for some, but not for me because it goes against my principles — it rewards IK for being flippant. If I pay $15 to demo the product and decide I don't like it due to lack of sampled velocities, I'm only out $15. But imagine if 3,000 other musicians did the same thing. IK...

Unfortunately my post is going to read like one giant, shameless plug, but this is one of those rare threads on VI-Control where my music fits. I am a voracious user of virtual instruments, but I'm not big on orchestral music. I'm more of a folk, country, rock, pop kind of guy. I'm not posting...

My hunch is the same. How many years did Miroslav Philharmonik receive the Readers Choice award for Best Orchestral Library on KVR? In my opinion, that indicates IK Multimedia is probably accustomed to most of their customers not caring much about sample depth. And that's totally OK. If IK gave...

Thank you! For "Concerning Hobbits" a virtual accordion won't work. You need a real accordion, and I recommend one with handmade reeds because they produce a nice, jangly, chime-like sound when the accordion is tossed down a flight of concrete steps. But if you're still interested in a virtual...

Ask, and ye shall receive. Thank you for your mockup of the "VI-Control Theme Song" which most of the older members here know better as "Star Wars." Panda, I've heard a LOT of Star Wars mockups over the years, and after hearing yours, I can say without a doubt that yours is, by far, the most...

I saw the video about the sampling process, and it was very informative, but I didn't find any information in it about the number of dynamic layers sampled. Advertising a relatively expensive, percussion-based sample library on VI-Control without disclosing the number of dynamic layers is like...

I would also like to know. Pianoverse sounds like a wonderful product and I congratulate IK on their vision and achievement, but my personal interest is not in the soundscape capability of the product, but rather how it stacks up against traditional piano libraries concerning the quantity of raw...

I still have K5 and K6. I use K5 for building my virtual polka instruments just in case there are customers out there stuck on K5. And if I recall correctly, some older libraries (Kirk Hunter Spotlight Solo Strings comes to mind) only work right on K5. I have Kontak 6.7.1 on both of my DAWs. I...

That's exactly my point. Facebook adopted liner notes. YouTube adopted liner notes. Instagram adopted liner notes. SnapChat adopted liner notes. AOL and MySpace said, "Bah! People don't want liner notes." Obviously I'm using "liner notes" metaphorically, but no company in a competitive field can...

... said the former CEO of MySpace.

Whether Spotify is rich or poor, they are a business nonetheless, so they are going to consider every avenue that could help them remain competitive. Now that Apple has announced they will make album credits available, I'm confident some PR staffer at Spotify has already mocked up a press...

This is reassuring info, thank you. I've used CD Baby for years. They're anal about submitted info following strict guidelines set forth by their digital partners, and only ask for basic credits. If streaming platforms are capable of receiving and displaying detailed album credits, I hope CD...

I think it's obvious that lyrics are a universally desired feature, but I doubt most kids are going to care about who engineered an album or where it was recorded. Still, if there is a practical way to make that information available as Apple is apparently doing, why not? The inclusion of that...

Streaming services like Spotify receive their content from digital distributors, and credits passed along by digital distributors are typically limited to artist, title, genre, release date, and copyright. Sites like Bandcamp are directly accessible by the musician, so the musician has more...

No, it's not too soon. In the U.S., the peak Oktoberfest season is mid September through early October, but I've played Oktoberfest celebrations as early as the first weekend in September.

That vibrato is almost all volume fluctuation, not pitch fluctuation, so flattening the pitch isn't going to make much of a difference. You can edit the volume envelope of the held note by drawing in curves to manually tame the volume peaks, but the timbre of the vibrato is still baked into the...

It sounds to me like weed must be legal in your state. :roflmao:

Apparently we're having two parallel conversations here. None of my posts were in reference to licensing to AI software creators.

I'm sure I've heard AI-created music before without knowing it, but I will not willingly listen to it. The fact that it isn't created by the neurons firing in a human's brain is an instant turn-off. To me, music creation ought to remain a sacred part of the human experience. AI music will never...

Whether a human creates a new song inspired by my music or AI generates a new song trained on my music, if I didn't write that song, whatever "role" you're crediting me with doesn't constitute a royalty-worthy stake in the song's ownership in my opinion. I could care less if it was created via...

Please understand I'm not attempting to cite or argue laws here, but merely expressing my views. If a human mimics the sound and style of my music without copying my melodies or lyrics, it's generally acceptable. Based on that, it is my opinion that I should also have no rights toward an...

It doesn't matter what style of music it is. If a human-generated song and an AI-generated song do happen to invoke the same feelings and emotions in people, then they are two of the same end product. Right, but at some point in the years ahead, advanced AI could train on it and come up with a...

I agree with you both on how you feel about the intrinsic human element of music creation, but this is how I define a song as an end product: Play a human-created song for someone, and then play an AI-created song for them. If they both sound pretty much the same in style and quality, then the...