When everybody is using the same libraries...

Rtomproductions

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...do you think that's a problem?

How many people use e.g. CSS as there main string library? How many times have we heard the same samples being played over and over, just in a different order and with little different processing? Do you feel like it lacks some sort of uniqueness when composing with the same libraries as hundreds of others? Maybe it's a good thing that developers keep pushing out basic string libraries and so on, even though the competition is high. A big palette of choices helps to stay unique as an individual...
Do you know how many clients have complained to me that I'm using libraries that are too popular?

None. Don't worry about it and use what sounds best.
 

givemenoughrope

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I rented Trilogy of Terror on VHS back when you could do that. I was a teenager. When that little cannibal monster guy appeared my little brother and I just about hyperventilated laughing.

Nice posts from SP. Brown shoes don’t make it/Don’t eat the yellow snow/etc
 
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Bluemount Score

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But also none of my sample-based mockups play identically every time.
I don't quite get your point - are you talking about round robins? Don't they usually reset themselves after a few seconds, so it IS the identically same thing every time you play it? Despite most libraries only have like, let's say 5 per note, in comparison to "unlimited RRs" of a real orchestra
 

kociol21

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I don't quite get your point - are you talking about round robins? Don't they usually reset themselves after a few seconds, so it IS the identically same thing every time you play it? Despite most libraries only have like, let's say 5 per note, in comparison to "unlimited RRs" of a real orchestra
Some libraries have ability to randomly choose from a pool of round robins. That would count as "not the same every time" but ultimately that's not very relevant. Also you use modeled or semi modeled stuff, SWAM, Sample Modeling, MODO BASS, MODO DRUM, PianoteQ, OrganteQ etc. Different play every time.

Anyway, I find it funny, when I talked to studio engineer few years ago when I was recording demo with my band, and he told me about drums, when he started in the 80-90' everyone tried to rule out drummer as a person. People would devote their studio time to make sound drums as much consistent as possible. Gating, quantizing etc. Basically "what can I do to make it sound perfect as it was played by machine". And now everyone goes "what can I do to make my drum library sound like real drummer" and people passionately humanize every note doing all the stuff that they desperately tried to get rid of years before. Some relevance to topic here :)
 
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Casiquire

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Live players don't play the same every time, but in a sense, sample libraries aren't identical every time either. Sure maybe the note G4 played by itself on one instrument at a particular dynamic will be the same sample. How many different pieces of yours play just that one single note by the same instrument at the same dynamic on its own? There will be other instruments. Other dynamics. And your pieces will (should) be EQd and compressed differently. And the listeners' ears will hear it differently depending on the context of the music directly before it. Everything around that sample changes the listener's perception of it.

And that's just within YOUR body of work. Now factor in a different person who layered it with another library and EQs it differently and it's in a different room with different panning and a different style and different arrangement, etc. Now multiply that times dozens of libraries of every type. I consider this a non-issue