What is this violin technique called and is there a library for it? - Drama Spinoff

Discussion in 'Drama Zone' started by Olfirf, Dec 12, 2018.

  1. Olfirf

    Olfirf Member

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    No, this is not Ricochet. Those are arpeggios played with a quite bouncy bowing and fast. This is one of those things you cannot get from a sample library - even one that’s would have those arpeggios recorded. There are simply to many factors to consider to seriously sample it: chords, tempo, bow, dynamics, ...
    Also TBH why would you be the right person to write that kind of music, when you aren’t able to even identify the technique in someone else’s work?
     
  2. SimonCharlesHanna

    SimonCharlesHanna Senior Member

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    And that's a shitty thing to say.

    + you didn't even use correct English which is so ironic when you're essentially calling someone an impostor.
     
  3. Sears Poncho

    Sears Poncho Active Member

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    Umm, it's "write". See, you were a dick and it backfired.
     
  4. Mason

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    This is nonsense, unmusical and historyless.
     
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  5. Akarin

    Akarin pragsound.com

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    Why would you even use a forum and touch a keyboard when you aren't able to even differentiate "write" and "right"?
     
  6. Uiroo

    Uiroo New Member

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    Yeah, why should someone consider learning something when he doesn't know everything about it in the first place?

    Ouch.
     
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  7. Tekkera

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    That horse sure is tall, you seem quite high up. If you don't properly maintain your balance up there, you might fall.
     
  8. Kuusniemi

    Kuusniemi Active Member

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    Well the customer seems to think that cato is the right person, so why do you have an opinion?
     
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    Olfirf Member

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    Oh, a shit storm! Thank you! :)
     
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    Olfirf Member

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    This is constructive, so I will answer: Well, would you go to a dentist, who has to ask for which drill to use on a dentist forum? Of course, all the other dentists without solid education would hate someone questioning this. But I don't think you would actually go to that dentist, if you would know about it. You would prefer the dentist with the best education, who would not need to ask for advice.
    Somehow, with music most people seem to oppose this basic wisdom ... Well, if you are saying, it is all about "the right feeling" or whatever, I disagree, but I can accept that as your opinion. Somehow, my view did not receive the same tolerance, but I am used to that ... no problem! :)
     
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    Olfirf Member

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    I did not claim to be an English professor - it is not even my native tongue. So, your comparison is not right and only lead by emotion.
    Besides that: thank you for letting me know about this typo, which I corrected.
     
  12. James Marshall

    James Marshall Senior Memer

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    So all composers should know the terminology for every technique of every instrument imaginable? :cautious:

    Surely the best composers never stop striving to learn new things? Not knowing a very specific playing technique doesn't render you unqualified for a job.
     
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    Olfirf Member

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    Yep, everyone should strive to improve his/her knowledge and certainly there is no end of it. Yet, this in my opinion is very basic. Not hearing what the string player does in this case means not really understanding how strings work. I would expect from myself to learn at least the basics, probably even more, before offering my work as a professional. You may disagree, but that is how I see it and it is not meant to be mean, although I am aware it could hurt people. But that is not why I say it. It is just a side effect that cannot be avoided as long as I want to stay truthful.
    So, apologies to the OP! It was not my intent to be hurtful. Yet, I cannot accept these different standards about music vs. basically any other human activity besides homeopathy. Besides, I think my other text was helpful and constructive, so please focus on that foremost!
     
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  14. Uiroo

    Uiroo New Member

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    Who would have thought...
     
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  15. NoamL

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    Music is not like being a dentist at all. It's more like: music is medicine, the entire field of medicine. A general practitioner can look at you and figure out that you're healthy or sick. But then he sends you to a specialist. Why? Because even with his MD which took years to earn, the GP doesn't know everything. There is more medical facts and expertise to learn than a human could pick up in a lifetime, or reliably retain in memory over his career. You don't mistrust the GP because he doesn't have specialist knowledge. You don't say "What kind of doctor just sends me to another doctor?"

    It's the same with music. There is simply way too damn much to know and learn. We all have to specialize to some degree. There are composers who are especially good synthesists, or especially good orchestrators, or especially good mixers. Some people get roped into careers doing just one thing because they're very good at it. Other composers build a team of people around them that they know can be relied upon for their expertise. When you see great music on the screen it's always the result of a lot of people working to make it great. Even John Williams needs Shawn Murphy (not to mention the London Symphony Orchestra).
     
  16. Lode_Runner

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    You yourself started that 'shit storm' by making an arrogant, rude and inflammatory comment to someone who had done nothing to deserve it. That was anything but constructive.
     
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    Olfirf Member

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    Oh! You wanna further discuss in the drama zone, your favourite section of the forum? Certainly, sweetheart. Go on, please! :)
    But you must excuse ... I won't join you!
     
  18. Lode_Runner

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    My comment was actually civil. I was just pointing out that you can't claim others are not being constructive when you were the one who started with the non constructive disrespectful remark. You respond to that with attitude and 'sweetheart'. Good luck with your attitude.
     
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  19. Mason

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    Upload one of your scores and I’m gonna check if you did anything that doesn’t work too well.
     
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    Olfirf Member

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    Shouldn't you a little bit braver by providing a link to your own work, before taunting others? Besides, I never said that I would never make mistakes. I just said, before offering a professional service, one should have professional education and expertise. Yet, somehow this is disregarded in the field of arts and music. If someone wants to have an honest discussion about that, I will have it! I don't know, why that discussion should be led in the drama zone ... well, probably, because all of you "righteous" guys are making a drama out of it by trying to attack me. I am sorry that my comment seems to have triggered insecurities in some of you ...
     

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