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What are best and most playable E-Guitar vsts? (With a rich, intense sound)

oivind_rosvold

Active Member
Ah, right, yeah it was he wording on their forum (the next-generation version of H7S) that made me think it was an update, still, H7S is a killer product.
 

playz123

Senior Member
Really good guitar although I'm not so sure that's the kind robdrmz is looking for, given his examples.
Of course, but my comment was obviously about what one can do with plugins once a library is purchased, and their value with any guitar library, not about what guitar library he should actually buy. Plugins can alter the sound of any library he does buy, and I think it's an important thing to remember when purchasing. Hoped that was clear to respondents.
 

Lee Blaske

Senior Member
Another vote for Prominy V-Metal. I don't find it particularly hard to get started using it. It's incredibly deep, though, so it will take you a LONG way. Pair it with good amp simulator and efx plug-ins, and you'll have limitless potential.
 

mikeleon1551

VSTi Metalhead
Of course, but my comment was obviously about what one can do with plugins once a library is purchased, and their value with any guitar library, not about what guitar library he should actually buy. Plugins can alter the sound of any library he does buy, and I think it's an important thing to remember when purchasing. Hoped that was clear to respondents.
Ah, right! I don't know how I missed that. My mistake :) yes very solid point.

Prominy V-Metal, I'd be all for it but the learning curve is pretty steep... fantastic sounds but not for the faint of heart! I'd be more inclined to recommend it to advanced users of guitar VST's.
 

TrojakEW

New Member
Well I have OTS Dracus (also Infinity and Stratosphere), Shreddage 2 SRP and Classic and Heavier7Strings so I can compare them from the point of non guitar player. OTS Dracus is easy to use and nice sounding but using it for hard chugs/riffs, uhmm well not quite good. Not much round-robins for that.

Shreddage 2 is nice for hard stuff and also quite easy to use. Here is my attempt to use it and it is my first track ever I used eguitar. Guitar Rig 5 used on it. Make this track after about 30 minutes of shreddage testing.

Now the last and my favorite is Heavier7Strings. If I have too choose one from these I will for sure chose H7S, (but I'm gald I have all of them since all of them are nice and usable even for noob like me). Easy to use good sounding and versatile with onboard effects rack that can be also used separately. Here is attempt to make track with it:

This is my view as person who doesn't know anything about how to play guitar. I just load instrument and play it how I want without spending too much time to learni how to use it. Also I don't use and test strumming engine in any of these so don't ask about it. If I need strumming I will rather do it manually inside DAW.
 

Motr3b

Member
Shreddage 2 is nice for hard stuff and also quite easy to use. Here is my attempt to use it and it is my first track ever I used eguitar. Guitar Rig 5 used on it. Make this track after about 30 minutes of shreddage testing.

nice song, may i ask what choir library you used for the song?
 

Motr3b

Member
I have used Requiem Light from Soundiron.
well i have that plugin, it was my fault saying choir when i actually was asking about the solo female vocal at 1:12??
i'm not sure if requiem is capable of that sound,maybe i should dig into the library a bit more.
also between the Heavier7Strings and shreddage, which one do you prefer ?
 

TrojakEW

New Member
Well that solo femalo vocal is actually not a female vocal :grin: but a male. It is Best Service Atlus. What do I prefer between Shreddage and H7S I say H7S but Shreddage is unique too and i like it too since it have diferent sound. For heavy chugs/riffs I think Shreddage but fact that H7S has its own fx rack is great and I think it is little more versatile but user is always what really limit the instrument. I don't even scratch the surface with both of them. I think you can't go wrong with any of these two.
 

Motr3b

Member
Well that solo femalo vocal is actually not a female vocal :grin: but a male. It is Best Service Atlus. What do I prefer between Shreddage and H7S I say H7S but Shreddage is unique too and i like it too since it have diferent sound. For heavy chugs/riffs I think Shreddage but fact that H7S has its own fx rack is great and I think it is little more versatile but user is always what really limit the instrument. I don't even scratch the surface with both of them. I think you can't go wrong with any of these two.
It's a male vocal ??? Wow..., i must check that out.
Thnx for the info, i think i'll get shreddage.
 

Dex

Member
AME is in drop C tuning so it can go pretty low.

The shreddage guitars are a little easier to program than AME because the engine is more flexible. For instance, if you want to mix hammer ons with legato slides on AME you have to use a fixed keyswitch. The shreddage guitars can be set up to do both with just velocity if you want, or with any keyswitch you want. Neither has tempo synced slides though. OTS has an even more flexible engine and tempo synced slides, but not enough rrs for chugs.

No idea what the h7s engine is like but it claims infinite rrs and the demos sound great. There's no indication of how much third party fx or external mastering, etc is used in the demos though.
 

mikeleon1551

VSTi Metalhead
AME is in drop C tuning so it can go pretty low.

The shreddage guitars are a little easier to program than AME because the engine is more flexible. For instance, if you want to mix hammer ons with legato slides on AME you have to use a fixed keyswitch. The shreddage guitars can be set up to do both with just velocity if you want, or with any keyswitch you want. Neither has tempo synced slides though. OTS has an even more flexible engine and tempo synced slides, but not enough rrs for chugs.

No idea what the h7s engine is like but it claims infinite rrs and the demos sound great. There's no indication of how much third party fx or external mastering, etc is used in the demos though.
S2 guitars and even Classic all go to drop G, and of course you can transpose the instrument a tad lower if you need to without losing much timbre. I do this with IBZ. Drop C isn't enough for me lol.

H7S doesn't necessarily have "infinite RR's," more like a marketing term. It uses some fancy DSP engine (that they call the thrash engine) that modifies the existing samples on the fly to adapt to the situation. Things like formant shifting and specific EQ moves and such. It stays impressively consistent. The real amount of RR is unclear. If it truly were infinite RR, there wouldn't be any cancelling out if you were to run two instances left and right, playing same notes. Does it sound good? Hell yes it does. The chord strumming is ridiculously impressive.

My H7S demos only used the internal amp stuff + additional post processing. I personally found it a bit easier to get good mixes with H7S, but I think that's mainly due to how well it maintained a wide sound with rhythm guitars. I still personally prefer Shreddage IBZ because it has some key points that are more important to me.
 
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mikeleon1551

VSTi Metalhead
Haven't heard much about Electri6ity, anyone use it? That is a lot of money, seems nice though.
It's way too expensive for me to consider. I feel like they should have just released the guitars individually. Way too risky.

A friend of mine recently purchased it. He seems to be happy with it. He says the lead playing is excellent, but it falls very short on the palm mutes. They sound too weak or something. I'm inclined to believe him, because not every guitar library folk get it right. Personally, mutes are a huge dealbreaker, so I won't be buying it. But if your need is more specific and you don't mind shelling out $400 for that specific need, then it may not be a terrible idea.
 

robdrmz

New Member
It's way too expensive for me to consider. I feel like they should have just released the guitars individually. Way too risky.
Yeah $400 could buy a few of those instruments. Anyone use East West Ministry of Rock? What program would you compare the SOUND of MOR to? I liked the versatility & the guitars are heavy enough for me.
 

mikeleon1551

VSTi Metalhead
Yeah $400 could buy a few of those instruments. Anyone use East West Ministry of Rock? What program would you compare the SOUND of MOR to? I liked the versatility & the guitars are heavy enough for me.
I'm under the impression it's more suited towards orchestral/video game tracks that could use some rock/metal flavor, but not so much that it's the main dish. Sounds very midi to me from what I heard in the demos and I wouldn't touch it for the stuff I do. Not that it's a useless product.
 

robdrmz

New Member
I'm under the impression it's more suited towards orchestral/video game tracks that could use some rock/metal flavor.
I hear that about most EW/QL products. Not being a guitar player it seems fine for my demos, isn't worth the composer cloud subscription though.
So, I am trying to figure out my Shreddage 1. The demos on IS's website sound great, I just can't find a video or any documents to help.
Re: the other rabbit hole, What do you think about the IK Multimedia MESA BOOGIE triple rec amp sim? I want that sound, the re-valver sounds pretty bad.
 
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