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What are best and most playable E-Guitar vsts? (With a rich, intense sound)

DarkestShadow

Senior Member
I would want to use them for symphonic rock kind of music. Like epic-trailer-heavymetal-orchestral-cinematic-action...:faint:

OK... like the music from TSFH's Power of Darkness album.
Thank you!
 

sostenuto

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I would want to use them for symphonic rock kind of music. Like epic-trailer-heavymetal-orchestral-cinematic-action...:faint:

OK... like the music from TSFH's Power of Darkness album.
Thank you!
Dunno, but cannot think of better resource than Greg @ Orange Tree Samples.com. Easy Support Tab and he is usually very informative about alternatives. +++ he will never BS you if he doesn't know.

https://www.orangetreesamples.com/support
 

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DSmolken

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Prominy's the huge and complicated choice, many people find it theoretically sounds best but in real life is a lot of work to use. For something simpler, Impact Shreddage series is very metal-oriented, Orange Tree and Ample have some solid guitars also, and that new 7-string also looks like s solid contender.
 

keepitsimple

Active Member
I still use Musiclab Realeight. The new "humanize" update in v4 dramatically improves the playability and response and i always find myself reverting to it. I also love that you can assign different functions to the pedal (wah etc). Of course you need a great amp sim to pair it with, in my case i use the fantastic S-Gear.

I honestly never warmed up to how V metal's tone sounds, too rough around the edges and one-dimensional but again that's expected with a VI that is sampled after a Humbucker. Nothing wrong with that. To each their own....
 

evilantal

Antal Nusselder
I'd say Heaver7Strings and Evolution Dracus are the heavy Hitters on the block atm.
With H7S having the most instant gratification.

NB: Based on observation, demo's and video's. I don't own the products.
 

pderbidge

Senior Member
I think guitar VST's are an even bigger rat hole than string libraries. It's another balance between play ability and key switching articulations, varying pitch here and there and layering in guitar FX like fret noises etc... On top of that there is the added rat hole of which Amp Sim is the most realistic and best to mate with the guitar library you are using unless you use something with baked in sounds like MOR 1& 2 or Strezov's Distort2. On top of that, there is another rat hole of what are the best impulse responses to go with the Amp Sim or are you happy with what's included in what you have. It gets to be quite the adventure. Of course, OTS and a few others do have some built in Amps in Kontakt but I've never found them to be on par with Scuffham or others, especially for the High Gain stuff, so in my opinion an Ampsim is a must.

There is one library that I don't own but constantly hear great things about which is EW Ghostwriter. The guitars in that are supposedly very playable and it contains both processed sounds that you can play out of the box as well as unprocessed that you can use an ampsim for. This library has been praised by some folks who's opinions I trust so I may pick it up myself one day, and the benefit being that it contains more than just guitars.

Most of the usual suspects made by Orange Tree Samples, Amplesound, Pettinhouse,Impact Soundworks and Prominy will be excellent and it just come down to your willingness to go through the learning curve. Not a single person here probably has all of these to compare so it will come down to your personal preference in sound and workflow.- although sound is largely dependent on the Ampsim.

For High Gain, these are the ones I would choose between- Shreddage IBZ, Evolution Dracus, Ample Metal Eclipse, Realeight or the Heaver7String you mentioned.

Or- if you want out of the box sound then Ghostwriter or The Dark Side or maybe even Distort 2 (although I haven't been as convinced by the demos of that one).

For Ampsims- Scuffham, Bias, Kaussa, Kazrog Thermionik, Overloud TH3, or the free LePou Plugins with the right impulse response can sound just as good as any paid AmpSim. just scour the web for free Impulse Responses or buy some Redwire impulses which are supposed to be top notch.

There is plenty more that can be discussed about this topic but now you see what I mean by rat hole :)
 

KarlHeinz

Senior Member
Still for me the best guitar vst is Iron Axe from Xhun Audio. But still (after so many years....) 32 bit. Its the only real reason I need Jbridge. But if you want a strat that sounds like a strat....of course not really the question in this post but I think I just mention it in case of "rathole guitar vst" :)
 

robdrmz

New Member
First I would like to say thanks for all the great help, I'm not a guitar player & am writing demos for pro's in the studio. I have been using ministry of rock & it works pretty good, the sounds are AWESOME, but a guitar player told me "you're just playing 5ths" & use should try orange tree etc..

I don't know anything about chords, tuning etc, I'm a pro drummer that writes songs for bands that have no idea how to arrange, or perform a hit. No problem editing to get smooth chords & some articulations, just a good sketch for people to play.

Thank you for all your feedback I have looked all over the web, youtube sites, forums etc. & so many helpful videos & reviews by everyone demonstrating the software, just one question before I pull the trigger on a new guitar VST.
I asked orange tree samples which of their libraries (evo dracus or rock standard) is able to play both of these types of music.Punk rock & heavy guitars( Please see my previous post for two songs) -

Dracus is a 7 string, can I still play standard punk chords on it? Can I modify standard to get deep chugs?

again, thanks for your help!!
 

mikeleon1551

VSTi Metalhead
What guitar vst can you recommend for metal & punk rock? evolution Dracus, rock standard?
RealLPC or Ample Metal Eclipse could get you something similar to the first link.
Heavier7Strings for the second link.

Anyone knows a vst that would sound close to this
I feel like most electric guitar VST/libraries can pull that off, granted you program it correctly.
I'm inclined to say Ample Metal Eclipse/Heavier7Strings but you have a myriad of options here if you're just interested in solos/leadwork.

OTS libraries are great although I didn't find them suitable for rhythm legato strumming. Especially doubletracked. I feel they don't supply enough RR's for this to sound at least okay. But its been a while since I've used them so my opinion may change later. They've made an engine update so I'll need to mess with that.

I think guitar VST's are an even bigger rat hole than string libraries. It's another balance between play ability and key switching articulations, varying pitch here and there and layering in guitar FX like fret noises etc... On top of that there is the added rat hole of which Amp Sim is the most realistic and best to mate with the guitar library you are using unless you use something with baked in sounds like MOR 1& 2 or Strezov's Distort2. On top of that, there is another rat hole of what are the best impulse responses to go with the Amp Sim or are you happy with what's included in what you have. It gets to be quite the adventure.
As a guitar library-focused producer, I agree wholeheartedly with this. It can be super complicated to figure out which product best suits your music. Personally, Shreddage IBZ and Heavier7Strings are absolute kings to me and will work with most contexts, granted you know what you're doing. But what may be most suitable for one may not necessarily be what another is looking for! It's very nerve wracking. I own quite a bit of these products so I like to base recommendations off of reference tracks. Eventually I'll put up comparison videos so people can get a better understanding of their pros and cons.
 

mikeleon1551

VSTi Metalhead
just one question before I pull the trigger on a new guitar VST.
I asked orange tree samples which of their libraries (evo dracus or rock standard) is able to play both of these types of music.Punk rock & heavy guitars( Please see my previous post for two songs) -

Dracus is a 7 string, can I still play standard punk chords on it? Can I modify standard to get deep chugs?

again, thanks for your help!!
Somehow missed this comment in my last reply, my mistake.
Dracus is an 8-string guitar library. I imagine you can pretty much play any chord you want, although they introduced a new chord engine if I remember correctly. I think you have to set up custom chords and assign them to keyswitches.

I like the other ones I recommended you better because you don't really have to deal with that setup, you can just throw the chords on the piano roll. I find it to be a lot more intuitive this way. Instant gratification.

For deep chugs I always recommend the Shreddage guitars (there's a couple of them). Impact Soundworks knows what they're doing with those palm mutes.
 

robdrmz

New Member
For deep chugs I always recommend the Shreddage guitars (there's a couple of them). Impact Soundworks knows what they're doing with those palm mutes.
I hear great things about shreddage 2. Unfortunately, I have the first shreddage & it just doesn't work, well for me. I can't figure out how to get any consistent sounds.
I wanted to buy their summer deal, I'm just worried that it will be the same.
No disrespect to Impact Soundworks. If that deal was available now, I would probably buy it.
Honestly, I'm only concerned with the sound & rhythm playing. I know the rhythm will be hard to find.
I really do love East West mor 2 sounds.
 

mikeleon1551

VSTi Metalhead
I hear great things about shreddage 2. Unfortunately, I have the first shreddage & it just doesn't work, well for me. I can't figure out how to get any consistent sounds.
I wanted to buy their summer deal, I'm just worried that it will be the same.
No disrespect to Impact Soundworks. If that deal was available now, I would probably buy it.
Honestly, I'm only concerned with the sound & rhythm playing. I know the rhythm will be hard to find.
I really do love East West mor 2 sounds.
I completely understand where you're coming from. Although worth noting that the first Shreddage's engine is super outdated in comparison! I would have probably saved you time if I'd mentioned that earlier. The later products are miles ahead of it.

You should be fine if you grab Shreddage 2 IBZ or SRP. The original S2 is great too but I personally find the other two far more versatile (especially with additional mute layers). There's also a "Legacy" toggle for your projects using the original Shreddage. It remaps the layout to your usual octaves of single notes and chords.

If you ever decide to get a second one, get Shreddage Classic for some of the best rhythm playability vst guitars can offer IMO. I say second because Classic unfortunately requires any one of the S2 guitars to operate. And since you already own the first Shreddage you are eligible for a discount on it. Its basically the same sample content as the first but a *greatly* overhauled engine that is unrecognizably better than the original.
 
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