Warning, stay away from Waves

Discussion in 'Mixing, Post-Production, and Effects' started by synthetic, May 6, 2018.

  1. String-for-sale

    String-for-sale To the highest bidder

    Oct 18, 2017
    Waves Central is sometimes a mess for me, and sometimes works flawlessly. Other than that, the only WUP I had to pay over the years was 14$ to get the upgrade to Waves Elements V2. Everything else is working with current version.
  2. I have not fallen into the WUP lane once yet, though there are some things that come with the Gold bundle now that I do not have

    But I purchased Codex on the current offer, and Waves got me last week with BSS DPR-402 as well..
    They get me a lot ugh o_O
  3. chrisphan

    chrisphan Senior Member

    Nov 30, 2016
    That must be something on their side then. Did you create an offline installer the way the link says? I tried it but still got an error
  4. rrichard63

    rrichard63 Perpetual Novice

    Nov 17, 2013
    San Francisco Bay Area
    In that situation, you might have to uninstall all of your Waves plugins and reinstall from scratch. Waves support staff once sent me detailed instructions on this -- it turns out that uninstalling in either Waves Central or Windows Control Panel can leave things behind that get in the way of a successful reinstallation. Anyone who decides to follow this path can PM me and I'll find the instructions. If I recall, they are Windows-specific.
    Last edited: May 16, 2018
  5. chrisphan

    chrisphan Senior Member

    Nov 30, 2016
    I can install my products now! That's probably a temporary system down time
  6. String-for-sale

    String-for-sale To the highest bidder

    Oct 18, 2017
    I think most people are not aware that when you pay WUP, Waves send you a voucher for the same amount that can be used on another purchase. So, the only 14$ I ever paid for WUP allowed me to upgrade to Elements 2 and to get a discount on another product. Not so bad.
  7. Yes I was not aware of this, makes me want to WUP every year now ;)

    Weird as that may sound :roflmao:
  8. germancomponist

    germancomponist Senior Member

    Jul 11, 2007
    Waves know very well that a lot of people use cracked plugins from their company. I bet that's why. Very clever, what they are doing!
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  9. Yes, I shall confess that at some point in the past I was one of those people.
    Little did I know I could get so many industry standard plug-ins for such a good value ALL the time ;)
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2018
  10. PaulieDC

    PaulieDC Senior Member

    Oct 16, 2017
    Hmmm... I have Horizon plus additional plugins (SSL, etc) on my main tower and Diamond plus additional on my laptop, all under the same account, and have used Waves for 4 years. I've done some upgrades in the past (and got the vouchers and used them), but also held off on several upgrades for stuff I now don't use. When v10 came out which is a major upgrade, I did WUP for those things on a few separate plugins, but also used a bunch to just get up to Horizon so all that would be in v10. I haven't lost anything, my older v9 are still there and usable if i want, which I usually don't. Nothing is lost.

    I don't mean this to be a "hey, what are you doing wrong" reply, but I will defend Waves that they are not a scummy company looking to rip people off and therefore requiring us to seek out a trade commission, like was said at the start of the thread. They are trying to survive in a very proprietary market that doesn't exactly catch the attention of most households in the world, like food and cleaning product companies do. TBH I didn't read every reply so maybe this reply is a day late and a dollar short... if so my apologies.
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  11. SoNowWhat?

    SoNowWhat? realised I can type here

    Jul 26, 2016
    I’ve not had a problem yet with not WUPing and all my plugs work fine. I have several at v9.x and newer ones on v10.x
    I’m sure this is due to good luck more than good management as I’ve read of some difficult experiences. I would expect contacting support should resolve the problems relatively quickly.
  12. chrisphan

    chrisphan Senior Member

    Nov 30, 2016
    Can somebody give a definitive guide on how I can install new v10 plug-ins while keeping my old v9 plugs? I'm planning to take advantage of Waves current sale, but I also want to avoid potential headache. Thanks!
  13. bryla

    bryla Senior Member

    Aug 16, 2006
    The Waves Central asks you when installing new plug-ins whether you want to upgrade your v9's. If you haven't WUP'ed then just tell it not to. Worked for me yesterday.
    SoNowWhat?, S.M Hassani and chrisphan like this.
  14. S.M Hassani

    S.M Hassani Senior Member

    Dec 30, 2014
    Recently did the same to install the Abbey Road Collection. You can run V9 and V10 plugins together, unless it's the same product.

    I chose to upgrade to the full collection instead of buying the new Abbey Road Chambers. (was cheaper BTW) Then I installed Chambers as a V10 plugin, leaving the others as they are in V9 form.

    Hope this helps.

  15. martinjuenke

    martinjuenke Member

    Feb 25, 2018
    I abandoned all Waves plugins because of these intransparent pricing strategies. And after I did that I discovered other developers with a far more customer friendly approach and higher quality plugins (Waves stuff seem imo often quite outdated...).
    stacever and Josh Richman like this.
  16. Josh Richman

    Josh Richman Senior Member

    Feb 25, 2017
    I’m almost to that point too.
  17. Akarin

    Akarin Senior Member

    Jan 14, 2018
    I would but haven't found alternatives to the OneKnob series and the Maxxbass one.
  18. bryla

    bryla Senior Member

    Aug 16, 2006
    Plug&Mix Perhaps?

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