VSL - Synchron Piano (out now)

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So far I'm not hearing the evidence and I do think a video demonstration would really help. Nothing super fancy; just clear and concise, like the sort that Mike from Cinesamples always puts up.
I agree.. I need a little more videos. (walkthrough, actual play, etc)
They will upload those as soon as possible I guess. I'm waiting.
 
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Product manager Paul said,
"All demos were played by Guy Bacos - as those last-minute changes provided quite some improvements (especially in release sample and pedal handling), new versions of these demos will be available soon. "

They already fixed a few bugs of the instrument, so the demos will be improved soon.
 

Casiquire

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I'd like to go on the record here and say that I completely reject the idea that anything has to be good to have popularity, even long lasting, even over centuries. It doesn't have to be good, just have mass appeal. That's it, that's the secret. That's not me saying Mozart wasn't "good", he was great and incredible. But that does mean that the idea that his music must be soulful because it's endured is absolutely absent of any truth.
 

Lee Blaske

Senior Member
Just trying to get the library installed here. Posted a question on the VSL forum, but I'm sure they're all still asleep over there...

I installed the Synchron Pianos software, and the library (using the Vienna Download Manager). But, Synchron Pianos is not showing up in my instrument plug-in list in Logic.
I also just noticed that the Synchron Pianos folder has its own installer app. Does that need to be used instead of Vienna Download Manager? I've already thrown my downloaded library files away after installing the library. Guess I need to try to download it again.

The installer version I used was 1.0.464 (which evidently is already an update to fix the note cutting off bug). Is it possible they forgot to put the plug-in in this new installer?

Anyone else having problems?
 

azeteg

Active Member
I installed the Synchron Pianos software, and the library (using the Vienna Download Manager). But, Synchron Pianos is not showing up in my instrument plug-in list in Logic.
As long as the Synchron Pianos software is installed, the plugin should show up in Logic. Perhaps try installing it again, then restarting your system. If this doesn't help, please contact our support - and I'll investigate this immediately.

I also just noticed that the Synchron Pianos folder has its own installer app. Does that need to be used instead of Vienna Download Manager? I've already thrown my downloaded library files away after installing the library. Guess I need to try to download it again.
The (new) Download Manager is capable of properly installing content for the Synchron series of instruments. The Synchron Library Installer provided with the software package is there for installing downloaded files at a later time.
 

ctsai89

Poem of Ecstasy
I'd like to go on the record here and say that I completely reject the idea that anything has to be good to have popularity, even long lasting, even over centuries. It doesn't have to be good, just have mass appeal. That's it, that's the secret. That's not me saying Mozart wasn't "good", he was great and incredible. But that does mean that the idea that his music must be soulful because it's endured is absolutely absent of any truth.
I pretty much would say the same.

Here are other things to consider:

85% of the world's population fall in the IQ range of 80~110. Or something like that. Google it if you would like.

Because someone's music lasted for centuries and appealed for the mass, it merely means that it was good at pleasing people within the IQ range that most people fall in.
 

CGR

Pianist, Composer & Arranger
Here are other things to consider:

85% of the world's population fall in the IQ range of 80~110. Or something like that. Google it if you would like.

Because someone's music lasted for centuries and appealed for the mass, it merely means that it was good at pleasing people within the IQ range that most people fall in.
Wow. Surely good music is irrelevant to the IQ of the audience. Music appreciation is multi-faceted and more than an intellectual exercise.
 

romantic

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Aaah, Mozart Off-Topic again :)
I just figured out another exceptional Mozart piece: "The Messiah"
This also prooves that mozart was a genius, but nevertheless hiss music don't really fit into my taste.
 

ctsai89

Poem of Ecstasy
Wow. Surely good music is irrelevant to the IQ of the audience. Music appreciation is multi-faceted and more than an intellectual exercise.
You can google that yourself too. IQ and taste in music does have some kind of correlations involved
 

Nicola74

Active Member
You can google that yourself too. IQ and taste in music does have some kind of correlations involved
IQ tests are mostly based on mathematical and linguistic skills, they don't cover all the spectrum of human capacities. In reality they usually are very limited.
The studies by Howard Gardner about multiple intelligences or by John A. Sloboda go very deep in this argument.
Definitely too much off topic, I stop here ;)
 
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FabioA

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Demos sound really good to me, I really don't understand some of the comments this time :)

I'd rather say these demos really sound like a real piano recording, and that's not what we always want in our production. I would love to hear close mics to understand the kind of details of this library. Also, I'm very curious about the half and re-pedaling..
 

Leo

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Demos sound really good to me, I really don't understand some of the comments this time :)

I'd rather say these demos really sound like a real piano recording, and that's not what we always want in our production. I would love to hear close mics to understand the kind of details of this library. Also, I'm very curious about the half and re-pedaling..
Close mic you can hear https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Synchron_Package/Yamaha_CFX#!Presets scroll down and listen Gershwin Intimate and player presets or pop...
 

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Demos sound really good to me, I really don't understand some of the comments this time :)
There were actually some technical problems(release sample and pedal handling) with the demos.
VSL said they fixed this problems already in the instruments and demos will be also fixed.
I didn't listen to demos yet today so I don't know they already fixed the demos.
 

richard kurek

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Back to topic, who did already buy this piano? How rate it in comparison to the Garritan CFX or Light and Sound Concert Grand, Keyscape....
vsl cfx is comparable to the garrritan cfx , vsl has bugs as far as is it much better still too early too tell once the bugs are fixed , the one that stands out it note release , it doesnt release cleanly has the effect you would get on guitars when you slightly reduce pressure on the string and release , as far as sound you can get a touch more intimate and expression again havent really tweaked this is first impression, i dont have Keyscape never interested demos are fine but hide alot
 
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Leo

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vsl cfx is comparable to the garrritan cfx , vsl has bugs as far as is it much better still too early too tell once the bugs are fixed , the one that stands out it note release , it doesnt release cleanly has the effect you would get on guitars when you slightly reduce pressure on the string and release , as far as sound you can get a touch more intimate and expression again havent really tweaked this is first impression, i dont have Keyscape never interested demos are fine but hide alot
When one have garritan CFX it is worthwhile to invest also to VSL CFX? thanks.