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VSL SYNCHRON-ized Woodwinds now abvailable

Ben

VSL Support
Our latest member of the Synchron Series is here: The SYNCHRON-ized Woodwinds!
We completely remastered and re-edited the samples, optimized it for our new Synchron Player and added authentic placement in the Synchron Stage.
You will get production ready sound out of the box, with different presets included. And you can disable the included reverb, in case you want to add your own reverb to the dry sound.


Included instruments: Piccolo, Flute 1+2, Oboe 1+2, English Horn, Clarinet in Bb 1+2, Bass Clarinet, Bassoon 1+2 and Contrabassoon.

Introduction price: 255€ instead of 345€.
You will get a discount, depending on the VSL collections you already have. Go to the product page and make sure that you are logged in to see your upgrade price!

Get it here: https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Synchron_Package/Synchronized_Woodwinds
 

jamwerks

Senior Member
Am interested in these (as well as the Special Editions WW's). Would love to see a quick walk-through of the raw sound of these remasterized samples, then bringing in the Synchon ambience little by little.
 
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Ben

Ben

VSL Support
Hi @jamwerks, if you buy any software product directly from our website you can return it within 30 days.
So feel free to test it yourself, we still need some time until the detailed walkthrough is available :)
 
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Ben

Ben

VSL Support
I already own the VI Woodwinds, the upgrade is 195 € vs. 255 € as introductory Price? :confused:
Depends on how many Woodwind libraries you own. The SYNCHRON-ized Woodwinds are containing instruments from all of our VI woodwind libraries. The more libraries you own, the lower is the upgrade price. If you own all VI woodwinds, the upgrade price is 75€.
 

josejherring

Senior Member
The biggest problem with VSL woodwinds are normalized samples. It put the ww registers out of balance within each instrument. Every register on say the flute was equalized so the lower register was way louder than it should be necessitating that one ride cc11 to bring the instrument back into a natural context.

In this version, have VSL gone back to the original recordings and worked from scratch without normalizing the samples?
 
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Ben

Ben

VSL Support
In this version, have VSL gone back to the original recordings and worked from scratch without normalizing the samples or are they the sample old patches just synchronized?
All samples were created from scratch from the original recordings. It was way more work then "just synchronizing" the VI samples.
But it was worth it: more velocity layers for the legatos, improved legato transitions, looped sustains after the legato transitions, advanced release samples, Vibrato and non-vibrato articulations and transitions.
And the volume inconsistencies should be fixed now.
 
it is only a 'standard' library for now. I assume there will be an extended version or is all previous sample content included in this standard synchronized version?
 

josejherring

Senior Member
All samples were created from scratch from the original recordings. It was way more work then "just synchronizing" the VI samples.
But it was worth it: more velocity layers for the legatos, improved legato transitions, looped sustains after the legato transitions, advanced release samples, Vibrato and non-vibrato articulations and transitions.
And the volume inconsistencies should be fixed now.
Skeptical but will give it a look. It's the volume inconsistencies that I want. Woodwinds by nature have these inconsistencies especially between registers and leaving these untouched is what creates better more alive realistic sounding woodwinds. The flaws create the woodwind character.

But, I'm willing to give it a serious look as VSL imo still has some of the better woodwinds out there.
 
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Ben

Ben

VSL Support
it is only a 'standard' library for now. I assume there will be an extended version or is all previous sample content included in this standard synchronized version?
Some artiulations were combined and the Synchron Player chooses the right sample during playback; for example the performance trills and the fast legatos, or the performance repetitions. So you are getting more articulations then it seems and less work programming them.

It is not impossible that additional articulations are coming in a Full library update, given there is high interest for this library and such an update.
 

wbacer

Senior Member
Woodwinds sound great but the Bass Clarinet, two Bassoons and Contrabassoon are missing notes in the lower register.
Some notes play while others are silent. Other instruments from VSL and other vendors play fine so nothings wrong with my keyboard. Sent email to VSL support.
 
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wblaze

New Member
What is the main difference between Synchronized Woodwinds and the woodwinds in Synchronized Special Edition? Looks like there are a few more articulations - are there more velocity layers?

Thanks!
 

Markus Kohlprath

Active Member
I’m curious to hear how the improved velxfades work. Hope not to hear two oboes instead of one every now and then while moving the modwheel any more. This would be a big improvement.
75€ for crossgrade sounds reasonable.
If there only would be time to set it up and get used to the new player🙄.
 
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Ben

Ben

VSL Support
What is the main difference between Synchronized Woodwinds and the woodwinds in Synchronized Special Edition? Looks like there are a few more articulations - are there more velocity layers?
Synchronized Woodwinds: More articulations, more velocity layers, more repetitions
 

Olfirf

Member
@Ben: could you explain how the legatos can have more velocity layers than the full version on VIpro? did you record additional ones or were not all velocity layers included back then?
 
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Ben

VSL Support
@Ben: could you explain how the legatos can have more velocity layers than the full version on VIpro? did you record additional ones or were not all velocity layers included back then?
I don't know the exact details, but as time goes also does technology and experience.
Back when the VI versions were released, the requirements were too high for some computers already.
Each additional velocity layer adds a lot more data that needs to be hold in RAM. Also it makes velocity crossfades need more disk streaming and CPU performance.

With large and fast SSDs, higher CPU core count and bigger, faster and cheaper RAM these are no issues anymore.
 
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