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VSL "Synchron FX Strings I" is coming soon.

muziksculp

Senior Member
Here is what Paul said in the forum:
We're very proud to announce Synchron FX Strings I, with a brand-new approach that is the perfect product to get to know the new features of our Synchon Player Software! (...) SYNCHRON STRINGS I UPDATE: The content for Synchron Strings I is currently in preparation for release and we are confident that we can add the Synchron Strings I download files very soon.

So the Player is ready, right?
Interesting feedback from Paul, I wonder if the content of Synchron Strings 1 has been edited, or added to, for the official release with Synchron Strings 1 Player, to provide more articulations, improvements to the legato functionality, and possibly other refinements that were needed.
 

Leo

Active Member
we listen yeh, so now VSL decided going with spitfire way, interesting:alien:
maybe they surprised and during breaks (when seriously record FX) they re-recorded synchron str 1 :whistling:
 

tmhuud

Brown Belt
Very odd. I guess its the Stage. It is sort of unfortunate as there IS definitely a good market for dryer samples.
 

ka00

Senior Member
I think it's funny how so many people are complaining about the quality of the Synchron Strings I, as well as the still-not-released player, and yet, VSL announces a new Synchron Strings product, and everybody can't wait to order.
Well, only because you brought it up, there are some differences in how this was released that let us judge what's on offer here, and apart from being recorded in the same stage, there's basically no real overlap between the content of the two libraries.

SyS launched as a pre-order without demos or walkthroughs for much of that time, only bold marketing claims. When it did come out, it delivered a legato implementation that many did not care for, and a still-delayed player.

SyFXS includes completely different articulations, launched with six wonderful demos, a twenty-one minute walk-through, and a complete Synchron Player.

That may not be enough for "everybody". But it's enough for many to make an informed decision and not hold any past releases again VSL.
 
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ka00

Senior Member
Whoa, just watched the walkthrough again on a larger screen, so I can see what's going on in the synchron player. It's actually quite an impressive array of sound options and combinations.

I'm seeing nine total articulations with up to 7 variations each. Multiply that by two different tempos in some cases (don't know if they are separate recordings or a time stretch algo). Multiply those by three different bow styles sometimes (regular, half-trem, and sul pont). And it seems very straightforward to dynamically fade between the bow styles.

I also like that the low and hi exist on a single patch, just on a different range of keys on the keyboard. I prefer this to having to load separate high and low patches.

It was hard to tell initially by watching on my iPad because they shot this on a less than tack sharp camera, where the UI is visible on a projection screen in the background. I honestly think a screen capture recording would have been preferable.

How do you guys feel this compares with stuff you might already own? I'm thinking primarily of all the other libraries that cover some of this ground, like Berlin Strings FX expansion, Auddict Angel Strings, Albion IV Uist, Heavyocity Intimate Textures, Spitfire Evo Grid 1 and 2, Red Room Palette Brush FX, etc.
 
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HBen

Active Member
Interesting feedback from Paul, I wonder if the content of Synchron Strings 1 has been edited, or added to, for the official release with Synchron Strings 1 Player, to provide more articulations, improvements to the legato functionality, and possibly other refinements that were needed.
Synchron Strings I is again at promotional price for 817 euros, does it mean that something is going to be improved this time?
 

Leo

Active Member
synchron player. Or we don't lose hope for new material........for syn str 1
 
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muziksculp

Senior Member
It's not a library I need right now. I would have rather seen VSL release their Synchron Strings 1 Player, then VSL Synchron Chamber Strings 1, Synchron Solo Strings 1, ...etc. Also Synchron Brass, Synchron Woodwinds.

I personally don't think there was an urgent need to release a Synchron FX Strings 1 library at this point in time, given that the core of the Synchron Orchestra is missing.
 

Piotrek K.

Member
Ok, I'm very, very confused now in terms of Synchron Player. So Synchron Strings FX has Synchron Player already, but people who trusted VSL X months ago are still waiting? Gotta love those face slaps ;D Hopefully this is the last one...
 
Well I certainly won't be buying this. I'm a but disappointed that VSL would waste time to make a library in this way, where multiple secions are recorded at once playing pre recorded phrases. As a fan, this is the last thing I want to see them doing - and hope that we never see a similarly recorded fx strings 2.
Traditionally, VSL libraries are about having control of your sections and players - for creating your own sounds.
VSL, please just improve the normal synchron strings and add divisi so that we can make our own fx, or (even better) add articulations and velocity layers to dimension strings. This is a step backwards IMO.
 

C-Wave

Senior Member
Well I certainly won't be buying this. I'm a but disappointed that VSL would waste time to make a library in this way, where multiple secions are recorded at once playing pre recorded phrases. As a fan, this is the last thing I want to see them doing - and hope that we never see a similarly recorded fx strings 2.
Traditionally, VSL libraries are about having control of your sections and players - for creating your own sounds.
VSL, please just improve the normal synchron strings and add divisi so that we can make our own fx, or (even better) add articulations and velocity layers to dimension strings. This is a step backwards IMO.
+1. At first glance i thought this was the extended articuations.. nah!
 

Jimmy Hellfire

Senior Member
Well I certainly won't be buying this. I'm a but disappointed that VSL would waste time to make a library in this way, where multiple secions are recorded at once playing pre recorded phrases. As a fan, this is the last thing I want to see them doing - and hope that we never see a similarly recorded fx strings 2.
Traditionally, VSL libraries are about having control of your sections and players - for creating your own sounds.
VSL, please just improve the normal synchron strings and add divisi so that we can make our own fx, or (even better) add articulations and velocity layers to dimension strings. This is a step backwards IMO.
Can't agree. Why shouldn't VSL create a FX library that gives you access to sounds and playing techniques that simply aren't possible to create with standard string libraries? It's another tool in the box and they way they did this library is the correct way to go about these kinds of sounds. There is no point in creating separate sections for this kind of stuff, and judging from the possibilities demonstrated in the walkthrough, this library offers tons of ways to be creative with the samples instead of just firing them off as one-shots, or mangling sounds randomly - like many other FX libraries have been doing. I really don't see this criticism as valid.

Now, seeing that they in fact did have the string players in for new sessions does raise questions - why did they not bother to re-record some of the much-criticized stuff from SyS, or record some of the missing articulations for that library instead? That's a whole different discussion, but it doesn't take away from the FX Strings themselves, and I would find it sad and also a bit stupid if it ended up being scoffed at by people because of their frustrations with the previous release.
 

MatFluor

Senior Member
I'm a sucker for nice FX. But I'll hold.

Honestly - I'm playing the long game here - currently I have the full SPitfire orchestra - but I could see myself going Synchron in 2-3 years once it's complete and a reasonable discount hits.

But I like some of the FX and their sound from the walkthrough.
 

Eptesicus

Senior Member
The intro discount seems a tad low does it not? I would be wary about them slapping a 25% off on it within a few months as they often do 25% off promotions on certain ranges/products.

Also, are parts tempo synced or is there some kind of arpegiator type thing? The demo track vertigo ( which is a really nice track) on their site sounds like there is.
 
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Sovereign

Senior Member
Here is what Paul said in the forum:
We're very proud to announce Synchron FX Strings I, with a brand-new approach that is the perfect product to get to know the new features of our Synchon Player Software! (...) SYNCHRON STRINGS I UPDATE: The content for Synchron Strings I is currently in preparation for release and we are confident that we can add the Synchron Strings I download files very soon.

So the Player is ready, right?
Well looks like Paul is ignoring the questions asked about this particular statement. Promoting their FX strings while the original is still half-crippled and going out of your way to answer questions is just not a good thing to do IMO.
 

Salorom

Member
I am thinking the reason we see this library come with the new player while those who bought SyS 1 are still left waiting might be good news.

The fact that the Yamaha CFX and Sy FX S 1 both came with the Synchron player leads me to believe the software part has now been ready for some time, and VSL didn’t release it for strategic reasons.

Maybe they did go with new recordings for SyS 1 and are now implementing them, hence the long delay. Then they have their customers download the additional content as a mere compatibility update for the Synchron player, so it doesn’t look like they’ve spent that much time actually fixing the library. And when the legato sounds so nice at last everyone thinks the player was definitely the missing piece.

This is all pure speculation but I do hope I’m right. I’d rather have it that way than being stuck with both a library that is half broken + a slap in my face as a customer.
 

HBen

Active Member
I am thinking the reason we see this library come with the new player while those who bought SyS 1 are still left waiting might be good news.

The fact that the Yamaha CFX and Sy FX S 1 both came with the Synchron player leads me to believe the software part has now been ready for some time, and VSL didn’t release it for strategic reasons.

Maybe they did go with new recordings for SyS 1 and are now implementing them, hence the long delay. Then they have their customers download the additional content as a mere compatibility update for the Synchron player, so it doesn’t look like they’ve spent that much time actually fixing the library. And when the legato sounds so nice at last everyone thinks the player was definitely the missing piece.

This is all pure speculation but I do hope I’m right. I’d rather have it that way than being stuck with both a library that is half broken + a slap in my face as a customer.
Paul stated as below, so it is very promising that we will have a new sample content for SyS I:

Yes, that's because you will need brand-new sample content that is packed in a new format. We are just preparing that data for you.

So there will be another download for Synchron Strings I and Synchron Percussion I, which will work with the new Synchron Player.

And once this sample content is available, you will also have access to the Synchron Player download.
 

erica-grace

Senior Member
Can't agree. Why shouldn't VSL create a FX library that gives you access to sounds and playing techniques that simply aren't possible to create with standard string libraries? It's another tool in the box and they way they did this library is the correct way to go about these kinds of sounds. There is no point in creating separate sections for this kind of stuff, and judging from the possibilities demonstrated in the walkthrough, this library offers tons of ways to be creative with the samples instead of just firing them off as one-shots, or mangling sounds randomly - like many other FX libraries have been doing. I really don't see this criticism as valid.
Agreed :) There are certain things you can simply not do with individual samples. This gives you the opportunity to do some of these things.
 

wbacer

Senior Member
I misheard Paul saying "fifteen" mics as "fifty" mics. My bad.

I also thought I heard the "Hades" variation as "Tardis" in the walkthrough and thought it was a bizarre Dr. Who reference.

I find these Yanni and Laurel situations cropping up more and more in my life. I must be getting older.
From the VSL website,
50 Microphones – 50 Musicians
We spared no effort recording Synchron FX Strings I, using dedicated close microphones for each player of the string orchestra. For easy handling, you have quick access to six stereo down-mixes of these individual close mic signals (Violins 1 & 2, Violas 1 & 2, Cellos, Double Basses). Due to the comprehensive selection of further stereo and room mic arrays you can create your individual string ensemble sound in stereo, 5.1 surround, or even 9.1 immersive audio format, using the player’s full-fledged mixer.
 
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