VSL Synchron Elite Strings?

[holywilly]

Thanks, that worked. Since (as far as I understand) attack is only considered for the first note in a legato line, I think this setup would make sense to control legato phrasing (see below). What do you think?

This totally work! Please check PM, I’ve sent you my preset.

 

[Craig Allen]

Try changing it to a much larger value, not reset it. Try 8192 or higher and see if there is any change.

Thank you. Will try.

 

[Craig Allen]

Thank you. Will try.

Zanshin said:
Try changing it to a much larger value, not reset it. Try 8192 or higher and see if there is any change.

Hey, this changed everything! Dramatic difference. Problem solved.
Thank you!

 

[Zanshin]

Zanshin said:
Try changing it to a much larger value, not reset it. Try 8192 or higher and see if there is any change.

Hey, this changed everything! Dramatic difference. Problem solved.
Thank you!

Awesome

 

[MrGolang]

Hi guys,
Originally I wanted to buy TSS because of Kontakt and the lookahead and the sound and detail. But after listening to the demos of Elite Strings, and what felt like 50 videos later, I decided to go with Elite Strings.
However, I currently only have the standard version and wanted to ask if you think the full version is really worth it.
I would also like to know more about your workflow and how you record your parts.

Another thing I noticed is that Elite Strings is very quiet by default, I have to turn up the output really high most of the time, is it normal?

 

[Rudianos]

Hi guys,
Originally I wanted to buy TSS because of Kontakt and the lookahead and the sound and detail. But after listening to the demos of Elite Strings, and what felt like 50 videos later, I decided to go with Elite Strings.
However, I currently only have the standard version and wanted to ask if you think the full version is really worth it.
I would also like to know more about your workflow and how you record your parts.

Another thing I noticed is that Elite Strings is very quiet by default, I have to turn up the output really high most of the time, is it normal?

It is quiet. Crank it up. Master to 127! 71 not going to cut it LOL ... Do try the mixer presets to find one you may like. Classic is volume minus in many mics, and what does it default to only room mix? ... And yes between the Ribbons and Surrounds in Pro ... it can get very warm and very big! Worth it

 

[MrGolang]

It is quiet. Crank it up. Master to 127! 71 not going to cut it LOL ... Do try the mixer presets to find one you may like... And yes between the Ribbons and Surrounds in Pro ... it can get very warm and very big! Worth it

Thank you for your response.

All right, I was afraid that some setting I overlooked was causing the low volume level.
Good, I was already 80% sure that I would buy the full version.
I think that I should look more closely at the VSL player and the possibilities to optimize my workflow.
I am not a good keyboard player, so I always record short passages and use the expression maps that are supplied for cubase to change the articulations. Surely that's not the right or optimal way to record everything and legatos is it?

 

[Rudianos]

Thank you for your response.

All right, I was afraid that some setting I overlooked was causing the low volume level.
Good, I was already 80% sure that I would buy the full version.
I think that I should look more closely at the VSL player and the possibilities to optimize my workflow.
I am not a good keyboard player, so I always record short passages and use the expression maps that are supplied for cubase to change the articulations. Surely that's not the right or optimal way to record everything and legatos is it?

Well the right way is whatever gives results. But with these synchron strings there's many legatos and many attacks and releases. Subtle and great differences to add realism. Do not know too much about expression maps, if they cover that many varieties?

 

[Marcus Millfield]

Surely that's not the right or optimal way to record everything and legatos is it?

There is no right or optimal way. If this works for you, it works for you. I play stuff in using a long or legato patch and change articulations afterwards. I use Synchron Players VelFX for dynamics, so use my expression pedal while playing.

 

[Petrucci]

Hi guys,
Originally I wanted to buy TSS because of Kontakt and the lookahead and the sound and detail. But after listening to the demos of Elite Strings, and what felt like 50 videos later, I decided to go with Elite Strings.
However, I currently only have the standard version and wanted to ask if you think the full version is really worth it.
I would also like to know more about your workflow and how you record your parts.

Another thing I noticed is that Elite Strings is very quiet by default, I have to turn up the output really high most of the time, is it normal?

I always put Elite Strings and SSPro +6db with Logic's fader!) Additional mics give more sense of space to the sound, so I always use Surround To Stereo Wide Mixpreset.

 

[Ben]

Personally I prefer using keyswitches in Cubase, or if working in StudioOne SoundVariation.
But whatever gives you the desired results is fine. It's also OK to change the articulation structure and/or to remove variations or articulations you don't need. In this case you have to create your own Expression Maps / edit the provided ones, if you want to keep working with them.
By the way: it's also possible to switch articulations via CC, velocity, speed, or aftertouch; the Synchron Player is highly customizable!

 

[Ben]

Regarding the volume: all Synchron Libraries are volume matched via the master volume, so they will sound right when used together. Of course, if you work with 3rd party libraries this will not match, so you have to change the volume of the other libraries to match the Synchron ones, or vice versa.
It's also not a bad idea to have an overhead of approx. - 10dB on the mix bus, so you will not have distortions when mixing in more libraries or when mixing/mastering. During programming this can be easily compensated by turning up the output volume of the soundcard or the mix bus volume in the DAW.

 

[MrGolang]

Thanks for all the information, I appreciate it very much.

 

[dunamisstudio]

I have standard as well. But reading the forum, lot of people recommend getting full version for this one.

 

[fakemaxwell]

By the way: it's also possible to switch articulations via CC, velocity, speed, or aftertouch; the Synchron Player is highly customizable!

One day maybe it can switch with MIDI channel?

 

[gtrwll]

Hi guys,
Originally I wanted to buy TSS because of Kontakt and the lookahead and the sound and detail. But after listening to the demos of Elite Strings, and what felt like 50 videos later, I decided to go with Elite Strings.

That is exactly where I’m at at the moment. Before release I was absolutely sure I’d get TSS, but I hesitated and now that I’m re-evaluating my options, there’s something about it that doesn’t sound quite right to my ears. Therefore I’ve had my eyes on Synchron Elite Strings, and wondering which version to get. Has VSL always had the back to school sale at September-ish? I could get a bit better deal from that, and maybe go for the full set if the extra mics are really worth the price difference.

 

[Obi-Wan Spaghetti]

One day maybe it can switch with MIDI channel?

Why would you want that? Seems like it's not necessary no? You want to load the same player on 2 different track?

 

[MrGolang]

That is exactly where I’m at at the moment. Before release I was absolutely sure I’d get TSS, but I hesitated and now that I’m re-evaluating my options, there’s something about it that doesn’t sound quite right to my ears. Therefore I’ve had my eyes on Synchron Elite Strings, and wondering which version to get. Has VSL always had the back to school sale at September-ish? I could get a bit better deal from that, and maybe go for the full set if the extra mics are really worth the price difference.

I absolutely understand what you mean.
Well, I am absolutely satisfied with the sound of Elite Strings. You have the detail due to the number of players, their high skill level and the way the recordings were made, and yet you can also create a big sound.
TSS Hypes how japanese players are known for this and that but i am sure the Elite Strings players are among the best and you can hear it. I think you need such elite players to get this dry, clean and top notch samples so consistently.
The articulation is top notch and all the transitions are brilliant.
I recorded several midi runs and tested different strings I had against each other and Elite Strings eats them all for breakfast.

(Edit, Not bashing any other string library here, just my view and the other strings were not among the top picks and recommendations.)

I've been playing with the new full version mics all day today and love the combinations you get with them.
My recommendation would be first to buy standard, if you are satisfied with the sound of the microphones, then leave it at that, you can always upgrade.
I think i am a fan of vsl now.
Servus.

 

[gtrwll]

I absolutely understand what you mean.
Well, I am absolutely satisfied with the sound of Elite Strings. You have the detail due to the number of players, their high skill level and the way the recordings were made, and yet you can also create a big sound.
TSS Hypes how japanese players are known for this and that but i am sure the Elite Strings players are among the best and you can hear it. I think you need such elite players to get this dry, clean and top notch samples so consistently.
The articulation is top notch and all the transitions are brilliant.
I recorded several midi runs and tested different strings I had against each other and Elite Strings eats them all for breakfast.

(Edit, Not bashing any other string library here, just my view and the other strings were not among the top picks and recommendations.)

I've been playing with the new full version mics all day today and love the combinations you get with them.
My recommendation would be first to buy standard, if you are satisfied with the sound of the microphones, then leave it at that, you can always upgrade.
I think i am a fan of vsl now.
Servus.

Thanks, that’s a good advice!

 

[Jeremy Spencer]

I absolutely understand what you mean.
Well, I am absolutely satisfied with the sound of Elite Strings. You have the detail due to the number of players, their high skill level and the way the recordings were made, and yet you can also create a big sound.
TSS Hypes how japanese players are known for this and that but i am sure the Elite Strings players are among the best and you can hear it. I think you need such elite players to get this dry, clean and top notch samples so consistently.
The articulation is top notch and all the transitions are brilliant.
I recorded several midi runs and tested different strings I had against each other and Elite Strings eats them all for breakfast.

(Edit, Not bashing any other string library here, just my view and the other strings were not among the top picks and recommendations.)

I've been playing with the new full version mics all day today and love the combinations you get with them.
My recommendation would be first to buy standard, if you are satisfied with the sound of the microphones, then leave it at that, you can always upgrade.
I think i am a fan of vsl now.
Servus.

How are you liking the legato transitions in Elite? Just curious on your perspective.