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VSL Announcement: Moving from eLicenser to iLok (iLok key / iLok Cloud)

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I'm kind of with Tatiana on this. It does sound like "Hey we are taking away your licenses. But don't worry. We won't charge you for the new ones even though we could!"
Why not just read it as intended?
We wanted to share this information as early as possible, and answer as many questions as possible already in the anouncement.
 

EgM

Game music!
Maybe we’re getting EXTRA licenses??

Hmm. Perhaps not.

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• You will NOT be asked to return or delete any of your existing licenses on the eLicenser.

• CONTINUED SERVICE: You’ll be able to continue to use the ViennaKey/eLicenser USB key as well as the eLicenser Control Center for as long as it is working on your computers’ operating systems. Your licenses are safe and perpetual. Steinberg will keep the eLicenser license server available as long as possible
 

NYC Composer

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...and if eLicenser doesn’t exist?

Steinberg-“for as long as possible.”

Still, I’m cool. Anything that moves the ball forward is ok with me, especially if it includes licenses that are bought and should be perpetual from then on, not specifically relying on an unreliable piece of plastic.
 
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dzilizzi

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Why not just read it as intended?
We wanted to share this information as early as possible, and answer as many questions as possible already in the anouncement.
I'm just giving you a hard time about the "free". I'm quite happy to have you replace my elicenser license with an iLok license.
 

Noeticus

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My dream is that VSL announces that because of all this... we will be able to install
our VSL libraries on TWO computers using the same single (paid for it only once) license.
 
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dzilizzi

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I bet that the very first posting after the same message _without_ the term "free" would have been, "But do we have to pay for it?!?!?".
In a way you do have to pay for it. If you only have an eLicenser, it will force you to buy an iLok if you don't want to be connected to the cloud.
 
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In a way you do have to pay for it. If you only have an eLicenser, it will force you to buy an iLok if you don't want to be connected to the cloud.
🤦‍♂️ oh boy, here we go again...

How about making some music instead of complaining about non-existing problems?
 

Noeticus

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🤦‍♂️ oh boy, here we go again...

How about making some music instead of complaining about non-existing problems?
So we do not need to buy an iLok if we are not using the cloud option?
Sorry if this has already been covered.
 
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So we do not need to buy an iLok if we are not using the cloud option? Sorry if this has already been covered.
You can use the iLok Cloud or put move the licenses to an iLok USB key.
 

Noeticus

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You can use the iLok Cloud or put move the licenses to an iLok USB key.
Sorry, again, but the real question is do we have to BUY this iLok USB key?
Or will VSL be mailing us new ones... ahh, for free?

Sorry if these seem like stupid questions.
 
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Sorry, again, but the real question is do we have to BUY this iLok USB key? Or will VSL be mailing us new ones... ah, for free?

Sorry if these seem like stupid questions.
If you want to use an iLok key you have to buy one yourself.
 

Noeticus

Motion Picture Producer
If VSL is forcing our licenses onto iLok, wouldn't it make sense to make the customers happy and mail them a free iLok (if they don't already own one)?

If I was VSL this is what I would do. :)

Getting a free iLok is nothing compared to the labor charge that VSL will not be compensating us for in dealing with this licensing paradigm shift.

Again, sorry if this seems trivial and irritating.
 

rrichard63

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the labor charge that VSL will not be compensating us for in dealing with this licensing paradigm shift.
For me personally, iLok is a lot more user friendly than eLicenser. For example, you can download a spreadsheet of all of your iLok data; you can't do that with eLicenser. Made a big difference to me when I had to replace a motherboard and needed to document everything that was installed on the old machine.
 

Noeticus

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For me personally, iLok is a lot more user friendly than eLicenser. For example, you can download a spreadsheet of all of your iLok data; you can't do that with eLicenser. Made a big difference to me when I had to replace a motherboard and needed to document everything that was installed on the old machine.
Yes, I agree. Thanks!
 

Geomir

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My dream is that VSL announces that because of all this... we will be able to install
our VSL libraries on TWO computers using the same single (paid for it only once) license.
I understand your dream, that would be perfect! But it has nothing to do with technology itself.

An example: EastWest and UVI both use the exact same copy protection system: machine-based iLok. EastWest allows only one installation per bought license, but UVI allows 3 installations at the same time in 3 different "machines" (yes I also find this extremely generous)!
 

Casiquire

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Hang on. You're not *forced* to buy a new iLok. If I'm reading this right, you can keep your elicenser if you want. So what's the problem?

I'm going to copy paste this entire thread into my coffee table scrap book titled Devs Can't Ever Win
 
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