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Nick Batzdorf

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For what it's worth I haven't had a single hung note with VE Pro, and I've been using it since it came out maybe 12 years ago.

I'm not saying this to discount your issue at all, just saying I doubt it's VE Pro causing the hung notes.
 
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Dominik

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Am I correct in the assumption that skyswitcher is something similar to expression maps in Cubase?Anyway, I don´t think that this setup should be blamed for the hanging notes. I mean, it could be that it provokes the issue but VEPro should be capable of coping with that. If it is skyswitcher than the issue is not related to my problem or it could be that using expression maps leads to a similar problem.
Did you contact VSL support? I am thinking of contacting them myself but I am not sure if I should wait for the JXL Brass update first.
 

Matt Riley

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Am I correct in the assumption that skyswitcher is something similar to expression maps in Cubase?Anyway, I don´t think that this setup should be blamed for the hanging notes. I mean, it could be that it provokes the issue but VEPro should be capable of coping with that. If it is skyswitcher than the issue is not related to my problem or it could be that using expression maps leads to a similar problem.
Did you contact VSL support? I am thinking of contacting them myself but I am not sure if I should wait for the JXL Brass update first.
I contacted VSL support about the plug-in raise issue but not about the hanging notes. I never heard back from them.
 

Dewdman42

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SkiSwitcher will always be on the list of possibilities because it is using custom scripts to send keyswitch events. Its very easy in Scripter to send a NoteOn without a NoteOff. I'm definitely not blaming that or anything else at this point. I have been trying to ask people to eliminate things in order to try to pinpoint what might be causing this, but the answers have been all over the map, which means we have absolutely no resolution on the matter at this point.

But generally speaking I am most suspicious of any custom script or any third party instrument possibly being the culprit.
 

Hans-Peter

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Unfortunately, I'm encountering the same issue of hanging notes with the AU3 plugin. Happens with and without articulation sets; typically during a cycle of 4 or 8 bars :-(. Need to figure out whether VE Pro offers a remote panic switch (via MIDI CC).
 

Dewdman42

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what are other components involved in the midi signal chain? What instruments are you using that cause the problem? Any scripts or other components effecting midi? Anything in the environment?

At this point, people with and without AU3 are complaining about this problem, so I do not think AU3 is the culprit. It is possible, however, that other components are not correctly stamping midi events with the port attribute..which is needed in order route both NoteOn and NoteOff events to the correct port of an AU3.
 

Dewdman42

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Happens with and without articulation sets; typically during a cycle of 4 or 8 bars :-(.

This is new information. Is this only happening while in cycle play? If you can isolate to that, it would be good to know. Also need to know what instruments and midi plugins you're using, any scripts or environment customizations.
 

Hans-Peter

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Yes, it only happens during cycles. Initially, the issue seemed to be limited to the Bohemian instruments (running on a local VE Pro server instance), but that appears to have been sorted in a recent update of the UVI player (since then, no hanging notes on the Bohemian Violin and Cello). However, the same problem is now appearing in Kontakt p(LASS; running on a MacBook Pro 16" - via LAN - WIFI is off). I gave it a try with an unmodified environment, with the problem reoccurring shortly after a couple of cycle runs.
 

Dewdman42

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are any of the articulation switches CC?

any scripter scripts or midi plugins?

Your description makes me feel the problem is in the instrument itself, but more information is needed to make any kind of conclusion.
 

José Herring

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For what it's worth I haven't had a single hung note with VE Pro, and I've been using it since it came out maybe 12 years ago.

I'm not saying this to discount your issue at all, just saying I doubt it's VE Pro causing the hung notes.
This is true. I get hung notes a lot after upgrading to Play 6 (was on Play 3 previously). I could blame VEPro but mostly likely it's just a slight bug between the newer Play and the older version of VEPro I use.
 

Hans-Peter

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are any of the articulation switches CC?

any scripter scripts or midi plugins?

Your description makes me feel the problem is in the instrument itself, but more information is needed to make any kind of conclusion.

No scripter scripts nor midi plugins. A clean project. It certainly is more likely to happen with Kontakt instruments. Other than that I use an expression pedal. Still need to check the control surfaces, though.
 

Hans-Peter

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No Patchboard (patchboard.app) to be more precise (however, it's OSC based). Will check tomorrow how it responds without. Thanks again!
 

Dewdman42

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For some reason I thought you said you were not using articulation sets. Imho it is probably related to articulation set and cycle mode. The program changes from tablet are not relevant I don’t think.
 
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