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Dominik

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Hi people,
I am new to VEPro. I have setup a template with a new library and everything works fine for me.
Except some issue with sometimes some notes hanging when I navigate in my project. They seem to get no note off information.

There is some possibility that the new library is at fault here but there are no other reported issues so I would like to know if some of you have also experienced similar issues with VEPro in the past.

I work on Windows 10 with Cubase 10 and VEPro 7.
I use 14 Instances as instrument tracks.
 

quickbrownf0x

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Hey Dominik,

First thing that came to my mind was a network connectivity/speed issue? What's your setup like? :emoji_thinking:
 
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Hey Dominik,

First thing that came to my mind was a network connectivity/speed issue? What's your setup like? :emoji_thinking:
Hi there,
I am not sure what you want to know. I have the two pcs connected via gigabit ethernet through a fritzbox. Nothing out of the ordinary.
Actually, I first of all would like to know if this issue is a known one with VEPro because as I mentioned, it could be that the player software of the library is at fault.
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quickbrownf0x

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Yeah, that's pretty much what I wanted to know. Thought maybe you had a slow, shitty router/switch or something. But a gigabit ethernet connection should work just fine.
Still sounds like a MIDI-related thing, though. Don't think it's VEPro not being able to keep up. That thing is optimized to handle a shit ton of data.

So what's the name of the library?
 
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What's the hanging library?
Yeah, that's pretty much what I wanted to know. Thought maybe you had a slow, shitty router/switch or something. But a gigabit ethernet connection should work just fine.
Still sounds like a MIDI-related thing, though. Don't think it's VEPro not being able to keep up. That thing is optimized to handle a sh*t ton of data.

So what's the name of the library?
JXL Brass
I am in contact with support but they tell me that I am the only one having reported this issue
 

quickbrownf0x

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JXL Brass
I am in contact with support but they tell me that I am the only one having reported this issue
Hmmm, hey is it me or am I mistaken for thinking that they're still trying to work the bugs out of that new player and library? Just the impression I get from reading comments. So yeah, could be the way it processes, prioritizes MIDI data. But if that's the case more people should report the same issue. Thinking out loud here...

Does it only happen when you use VEPro? If not, maybe it's something simple like; something's up with your MIDI connection? DIN connectors/cable's gone to shit? 🤷‍♂️🤔
 
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Hmmm, hey is it me or am I mistaken for thinking that they're still trying to work the bugs out of that new player and library? Just the impression I get from reading comments. So yeah, could be the way it processes, prioritizes MIDI data. But if that's the case more people should report the same issue. Thinking out loud here...

Does it only happen when you use VEPro? If not, maybe it's something simple like; something's up with your MIDI connection? DIN connectors/cable's gone to shit? 🤷‍♂️🤔
Actually, using VEPro is the only way for me to use this library at all. Yes, they work on some issues and maybe the new version will also cure my current issue.

I think most composers use VEPro other than me. As mentioned, I have implemented VEPro as individual instances via instrument tracks. Combined with the fact that JXL Brass is a new library yet not owned and used by many it could well be that the library is at fault but no one else has run into that issue.
Combined with some different DAW options and PC configurations it´s possible.


P.S. I don´t know what you mean with midi connection. It´s all in the box. I have not one single midi cable in my setup.
 

Matt Riley

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I’ve had this issue with VEP in logic with multiple libraries. The notes often keep playing after I hit stop. This typically only happens in larger projects. It might be due to the way I’ve got it set up.
 

quickbrownf0x

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Actually, using VEPro is the only way for me to use this library at all. Yes, they work on some issues and maybe the new version will also cure my current issue.

I think most composers use VEPro other than me. As mentioned, I have implemented VEPro as individual instances via instrument tracks. Combined with the fact that JXL Brass is a new library yet not owned and used by many it could well be that the library is at fault but no one else has run into that issue.
Combined with some different DAW options and PC configurations it´s possible.


P.S. I don´t know what you mean with midi connection. It´s all in the box. I have not one single midi cable in my setup.
Yeah, that sounds about right. Re: midi connection - got it. I thought maybe the MIDI/USB cable or USB port on your MIDI (keyboard) controller's (if you have one) a bit wonky, which could explain the MIDI dropouts. But then I forgot it all happens during playback, right? My mistake.
 
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Yeah, that sounds about right. Re: midi connection - got it. I thought maybe the MIDI/USB cable or USB port on your MIDI (keyboard) controller's (if you have one) a bit wonky, which could explain the MIDI dropouts. But then I forgot it all happens during playback, right? My mistake.
yes, during playback. So hardware midi issues are not the problem. I use a Komplete Kontrol via USB anyway.
 
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I’ve had this issue with VEP in logic with multiple libraries. The notes often keep playing after I hit stop. This typically only happens in larger projects. It might be due to the way I’ve got it set up.
Now, this is interesting. But what do you think you do other than the rest with your setup?

Regrettably, I can´t test VEPro with other libraries because I setup the slaveespecially for JXL Brass and will not run any other library with it.
 

Matt Riley

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how do you have it setup?
But what do you think you do other than the rest with your setup?
I should probably simplify my setup so that they are all the same. Right now I have lots of instances and they vary in how they are set up. Some are multitimbral so that I can use Skiswitcher to switch between articulations and they all return audio to one stereo track. Others such as percussion are loaded with multiple instances of PLAY or Kontakt, or other. and return audio to separate aux tracks. Others are single instruments with only one instance.
 

Dewdman42

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the audio returns are not relevant to hung notes.

Skiswitcher might be relevant, or might not.

are you using any kind of multiport instrument using the VSL multiport environment macro or the AU3 plugin?
 

Dewdman42

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Just curious are you using the older ski switcher version that is based on channels rather then articulationID or something like that? Are you using articulationSets in any way?
 
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