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VEPro 7 now available!

Rob Elliott

Senior Member
The fact of the matter for me (master and 3 slaves) - VEP is right there with Cubase Pro for the MOST important software I own. I'd pay twice/thrice the price if I 'had to'. ;) This pricing model seems fair IMHO.
 

jamwerks

Senior Member
The Synchronized thing is just a way for a new offering that some may like and buy into, at a limited cost to VSL. Nothing wrong with that Imo. Unfortunately that seems to have slowed down the launch of newer products.

Synchron Percussion is great imo & gave me high hopes and expectations for what would follow. Synchron Strings made me think that something was fundamentally wrong inside the VSL apparatus as far as editing but also the chain of commands. How did people there let them launch that with the problems (especially the Violins) that anyone could have heard. No one was pulling the fire alarm?

Anyway hope they've resolved those issues and that the next orchestral offering will be up to par with their legacy. The competition will be tough now with OT, Audiobro & Cinematic Studio.
 

LinusW

Active Member
What issues are you having?
Crashes or freezes. The slave PC won't even pass "Initializing" at boot. Support wants to remote my PC and have a look but I wan't to sit in front when they log in so that'll wait until next week.
Ensemble Pro (!) Server is working on my main Mac now, but Vienna Instruments/Ensemble (not Pro) will crash on launch. Latest versions installed everywhere.
 

LinusW

Active Member
€75 is for upgrading the 3 licenses I got earlier? $45 for additional single licenses is for license #4 and above?
 

Nick Batzdorf

Moderator
Moderator
It sounds to me like you have a corrupted file, a conflict, or a network issue.

If you read VSL's forum, you'll see that your story isn't typical.

Crashes or freezes. The slave PC won't even pass "Initializing" at boot. Support wants to remote my PC and have a look but I wan't to sit in front when they log in so that'll wait until next week.
Ensemble Pro (!) Server is working on my main Mac now, but Vienna Instruments/Ensemble (not Pro) will crash on launch. Latest versions installed everywhere.
 

LinusW

Active Member
Support were guessing a 3rd part VST, but I moved everything in the VSTPlugins folder except VSL and it did not help.

No network issue, other DAWs and applications, internet connection/browser/network tools and everything else works fine.
 

Dietz

Space Explorer
the Syncrhonized series is just nuts. It's the craziest offering in all Sampledom. The big selling point of the original series is control, and typically exquisite legato transitions. This is because it has been recorded on the Silent Stage. To actually take those samples and bake in some artificial reverb - screwing up the very thing that was good about them in the first place by muddying all those transitions -
Errrrr ... this seems to be a misunderstanding: The "Synchron-ized" Vienna Instruments have no "baked-in artificial reverb". They were completely re-mastered and use some kind of next-generation MIRx for placement, tone and "artificial reverb" (ha!) to achieve a believable blend between the Vienna Instruments and Synchron Series, but nothing is "baked in".
 

kitekrazy

Senior Member
I just installed it and this is my first impression:
Content you'll get:
- Old content is just "synchronized" and sounds good.
- Syn. Strings: You get Short, Soft lyrical vib, Flautando. They sound good imo, full range over the keyboard. So can be usefull in some scenarios (layering, pad)
- Syn FX Strings: 4 articulations, usefull if you need that kind of stuff
- Syn App Strings: Only strong vib Legato and Slides up, only Vio I (there is no IR included for Vio II).
- Syn Chamber Strings: Only Vio I and only Legato, Halftone trill. No idea how to combine this with the rest of the collection...
- Syn Dim Brass: Only Wagner Tubas + Stacc, Portato, Sustain, Blare, Marcato. 4 players, individual programmable. Really great and a highlight of the collection.
- Syn Percussion: Snare Drum, Bass Drum, Tam-Tam
- Power Drums: Tama Star Light Set
- Smart Spheres: Tremolo Pad, High Anxiety, Pad Bass, Distorted Bass

You will get multiple microphone positions with the Synchron Libraries, which is great, but imo you should buy this for VEPro and not the bonus content. It's nice to have it if you don't have the libraries, but no must-have.
So this is like a "taster" library bloated to 73GB? I almost thought about getting it for the library since I only have Special Editions and loaded the 1st epic on another machine. I'd just wait when I wanted to install VEPro 7. It may be a complete pass for me.

I've been watching their forum and nice to see some complaining about the upgrade pricing. I'm not sure why this would attract new users since the 3 license format cost me less than this single license.
 

NYC Composer

Senior Member
The fact of the matter for me (master and 3 slaves) - VEP is right there with Cubase Pro for the MOST important software I own. I'd pay twice/thrice the price if I 'had to'. ;) This pricing model seems fair IMHO.
I’m right there with you. Dunno about the included library (the initial epic orch got a TON of use from me, what a nice little add on that was!) but I’m still totally amazed at what the software does. On my ancient Mac Pro, I’d say it approximately doubles the amount of CPU/ASIO performance with Cubase, and its ability to hook up MIDI and audio to a slave computer with a CAT cord STILL blows my mind.

But, er...though I bought the upgrade from 5 to 6, I never exactly installed ito_O. I guess I’ll wait and see about 7.

Anyway, Kontakt and VEP are, to me, the two essential pieces of software. Omnisphere is almost there but not quite.
 

Guy Rowland

Senior Member
Errrrr ... this seems to be a misunderstanding: The "Synchron-ized" Vienna Instruments have no "baked-in artificial reverb". They were completely re-mastered and use some kind of next-generation MIRx for placement, tone and "artificial reverb" (ha!) to achieve a believable blend between the Vienna Instruments and Synchron Series, but nothing is "baked in".
So to be clear - which the VSL information absolutely isn't - you're saying that although they went back and manipulated the original samples, the reverb part of it is handled in Synchron Player AFTER sample playback?
 

Dietz

Space Explorer
So to be clear - which the VSL information absolutely isn't - you're saying that although they went back and manipulated the original samples, the reverb part of it is handled in Synchron Player AFTER sample playback?
In case of the Synchron-ized Vienna Instruments: Yes, similar to MIRx. In case of Synchron Series: No, the room is part of the recording (... but there's still the _additional_ algorithmic reverb in the Synchron Player for sweetening).
 
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Guy Rowland

Senior Member
Thanks Dietz - though it doesn’t make me want to go anywhere near the Synchronized range, it’s certainly less bad to do it that way. IMO the information available about the range is very poor. I looked specifically for this information at the time and after a lot of head scratching concluded it was baked in.
 

C-Wave

Senior Member
Thanks Dietz - though it doesn’t make me want to go anywhere near the Synchronized range, it’s certainly less bad to do it that way. IMO the information available about the range is very poor. I looked specifically for this information at the time and after a lot of head scratching concluded it was baked in.
It’s easy to draw this conclusion , but if you check the size of the Synchron-ized libraries themselves (the ones that were recorded in silent stage) you see they are in fact have a size pretty close to the dry versions. Not the case with Synchron line (i.e. Synchron strings, etc..).
In fact Synchron-ized Epic Orchestra 2.0 is the same size as the dry (VI-Pro) Epic Ocrchestra version; 8GB.. without the extra add-ons.. as i mentioned in the post above. Hence proving Dietz point.
 
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Ben

Ben

VSL Support
Library Size:
You can choose wich sections of Epic instruments to download and install (if you don't want / need SYN Strings because its size, you can install just the other instruments).
These are the seperate files and their sizes ("EpicOrch2_01" is the synchronized original Epic Orchestra)
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Synchronized Instruments:
You can disable the added Synchron IR- and additional plate- / algorithmic- reverb from the preset with just a few clicks and save it as preset. They are 100% dry (the synchronized instruments like App/Chamberstrings, original Epic Orchestra, Dim Brass II.
The Synchron (FX) Strings, Power Drums, Sync Percussion are recorded wet).
 
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Ben

Ben

VSL Support
If you preorder through the 28.02, you'll recive the "The Giant Taiko Drum bonus library" additionally.
 
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