Unpopular request

Discussion in 'Member's Compositions' started by BlackDorito, Apr 11, 2019.

  1. BlackDorito

    BlackDorito Member

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    I get inspired by so many tracks posted here ... but what I am increasingly noticing (a little bit here, but particularly all across SoundCloud) is the Cmin - AbMaj chord progression over and over in 'thoughtful' pieces (slower, non-Action). A simple and humdrum example is:

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    There are many variants of this ... all of them making me try to pick out some interesting whiff of orchestration instead of listening to the monotonous harmonic motion.

    I think (we) guilty parties should try to branch out from this progression.

    This seemingly elitist request comes from a place of love.
     
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    poetd Active Member

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  3. chillbot

    chillbot Sock Muppet

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    Hey I just used this today! Can't get enough of it.
     
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    BlackDorito

    BlackDorito Member

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    Take heart, the affliction will pass .... maybe. Meanwhile, try to build your Hollywood cred with m8m instead of m8M.
     
  5. erica-grace

    erica-grace Senior Member

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    Love the progression - will definitely continue to use it!
     
  6. Studio E

    Studio E Eric Watkins

    This is the worst progression ever. But D min - Bb Maj, now THAT's a progression!
     
  7. JohnG

    JohnG Senior Member

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    yes indeed! You can make it even more boring using inversions.
     
  8. Studio E

    Studio E Eric Watkins

    It's a mere pinky-lift.
     
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    BlackDorito

    BlackDorito Member

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    I know, I know .. just throw in some interesting orchestration for my weary ears.
     
  10. jbuhler

    jbuhler Senior Member

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    A bit of dark magic, the m8m.
     
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  11. NoamL

    NoamL Winter <3

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    Screen Shot 2019-04-11 at 5.53.25 PM.png :whistling: Specifically since 2010....
     
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    BlackDorito

    BlackDorito Member

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    m11M is nice. [your spelling may vary]
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  13. jbuhler

    jbuhler Senior Member

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    Neo-Riemannian theory calls it the Slide Transformation. I find it also works well in first inversion.
     
  14. StevenOBrien

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    Those would also be the first two chords of the "vi-IV-I-V" (i-VI-III-VII) four chord progression Beato and the like are making a meme out of complaining about now.

    It annoys me when people complain about it. Sometimes you need a safe, recognizable progression to get across a sense of stability and homewardness. It's just another tool in your toolbox, and as long as it's not your only tool, what's the big deal? If it's used badly, blame the composer, not the progression. :)
     
  15. CGR

    CGR Pianist/Composer/Arranger

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    Nice chordal movement. Evokes a mysterious/foreboding feeling for me.
     
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    BlackDorito

    BlackDorito Member

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    I do like it better in that configuration:
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    ...and perhaps it serves the dramatic purpose of 'homewardness'. Still, speaking for myself, when I encounter so many instances of m8M in standalone tracks that have no underscore context, it can get tiresome.

    Since @poetd mentioned that YouTube video above, I'm now working on an "M8M" snippet - curious to see if it comes across as "Fantastical".
     
  17. Geocranium

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    What I'm personally tired of hearing is the i -> VI -> IV7 (C min, Ab, F7 for example) pop up in so much stuff. It's very effective, but I've heard it so many times that it's lost its allure. It's especially tempting because all you have to do is move one finger chromatically!

    For a pop culture example: it's the progression the choir sings at 0:12:
     
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