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Synchronized Dimension Brass - Whats it like ? (Very few if any walkthrough videos out there)

Paul Jelfs

Senior Member
I am looking at adding more VSL to my template, and love the Woodwinds.

In particular, Synchronized Dimension Brass - however, there is very few walk through's or reviews about it out there (love a good video review /walk through)

I do realise it is based on the earlier Dimension Brass for the non Sychron player, but i was hoping somebody might chime in with thoughts about how it works in the new player ( the full version not the Special Edition version).

The only video i could find was the short introduction one by VSL, about whats new, but no actual walk through. I have been playing around with the Demo Brass libraries they have just realised for Big Bang, and i presume they will have a more classical, less cinematic sound , but may be wrong.

So anyone with the library, or if you know of a good walk through / review, please let me know :)

Thanks
 

Casiquire

Senior Member
There's not much talk about the original version either which is really unfortunate because these sound great to my ears. I'm curious about them. Bump?
 

synergy543

Senior Member
Yes, walkthroughs are fun and informative (and a great way to kill lots of time). Paul has a short one for the Dimension Brass so don't miss that. I think Guy Bacos's demos Ride of the Galant Horseman and Remembering Cecil give a good representation of what you can expect from this library. In short, lots of expression and a smooth wide dynamic range. And then there's muted brass which is not in a lot of libraries. Overall, I'd say it's one of VSL's best libraries.
 

muziksculp

Senior Member
Some feedback from users of VSL Synchronized Dimension Brass I would be very helpful.

Is it useful to get this library, if I already have Synchron Brass ?
 

samplin

New Member
I love it in the same way I love dimension strings synchro. For sectional playing it sounds full and real. It’s also quick to work with, much faster than the vi version which I had originally. The limitations are for me are the trumpet range which is not so high and you wont get the fff sound at the top like other libraries. The samples aren’t as smooth as the solo brass so not so great for lush ? legato playing ( which is also true with DS).
I use it as the main section and then add or overlay other brass libraries when needed. It blends really well.
hope that helps.
 

muziksculp

Senior Member
I love it in the same way I love dimension strings synchro. For sectional playing it sounds full and real. It’s also quick to work with, much faster than the vi version which I had originally. The limitations are for me are the trumpet range which is not so high and you wont get the fff sound at the top like other libraries. The samples aren’t as smooth as the solo brass so not so great for lush ? legato playing ( which is also true with DS).
I use it as the main section and then add or overlay other brass libraries when needed. It blends really well.
hope that helps.
Thanks.

I'm still not sure if Synchronized Dim. Brass will be useful if I already have Synchron Brass ?

The trumpets in Synchron Brass sound awesome, so I don't think the limitations of the trumpet range in the Synchronized Dim-Brass will have any impact, but what makes Synch. Dim-Brass a useful library, if I have Synchron Brass ? That's the thing I'm trying to evaluate.
 

samplin

New Member
You Know that’s a tough call. I’ve only just got SB and haven’t used it in a piece yet. It has blown me away like everyone else. Not sure what I would do if i had SB first, but I’m glad I have both with no regrets. SB is very versatile, but I think they have different uses and compliment each other. They are different beasts if that makes sense. Maybe worth trying it then return If you don’t like? M
 

muziksculp

Senior Member
You Know that’s a tough call. I’ve only just got SB and haven’t used it in a piece yet. It has blown me away like everyone else. Not sure what I would do if i had SB first, but I’m glad I have both with no regrets. SB is very versatile, but I think they have different uses and compliment each other. They are different beasts if that makes sense. Maybe worth trying it then return If you don’t like? M
Thanks.

Enjoy Synchron Brass. It's an impressive sounding library. :thumbsup:

Actually, what I really want is Synchron Woodwinds. So, I might just wait.

I have other Brass libraries, from OT, Spitfire, CineSamples, ..etc. . I might not need much more in the Brass Dept.

Cheers,
Muziksculp
 

Dewdman42

Senior Member
The main advantage of VSL dimension products is the flexibility. You can create section sound, divisi sound, seperate players, or a couple of them layered together in any arrangement you want, or use only two players for a smaller ensemble or smaller brass sound. Because its dry library you also have a lot of flexibility in terms of stage placement and room sound, which you can do on a per player, per desk, per group or the whole section basis.

I think they sound great, but many other products also sound great. the main benefit of this one is versatility, which is top notch. VSL did an outstanding job of incorporating consistency between samples and players, a nice set of articulations...and humanization features so that layering 8 players together, each with seperate humanization means you actually get some automatic humanization beyond what is possible playing a full section sample.

For woodwinds I think you should highly consider picking up synchronized woodwinds to use with your other synchron instruments. I don't know if or when VSL will make an actual multi-mic synchron woodwinds, one would think they will do it eventually, but anyway, the existing synchronized one is very very very good and will sit well in a synchron room.
 

muziksculp

Senior Member
The main advantage of VSL dimension products is the flexibility. You can create section sound, divisi sound, seperate players, or a couple of them layered together in any arrangement you want, or use only two players for a smaller ensemble or smaller brass sound. Because its dry library you also have a lot of flexibility in terms of stage placement and room sound, which you can do on a per player, per desk, per group or the whole section basis.

I think they sound great, but many other products also sound great. the main benefit of this one is versatility, which is top notch. VSL did an outstanding job of incorporating consistency between samples and players, a nice set of articulations...and humanization features so that layering 8 players together, each with seperate humanization means you actually get some automatic humanization beyond what is possible playing a full section sample.

For woodwinds I think you should highly consider picking up synchronized woodwinds to use with your other synchron instruments. I don't know if or when VSL will make an actual multi-mic synchron woodwinds, one would think they will do it eventually, but anyway, the existing synchronized one is very very very good and will sit well in a synchron room.
Thanks for your helpful feedback.

I'm also guessing if I get Synchronized Woodwinds, I will also be able to get a good discount on Synchron Woodwinds once it is released. Correct ?
 

Dewdman42

Senior Member
No I very much doubt that. Never say never, but generallY VSL has kind of a loose policy that if they make new samples...then you gotta pay for it. They do have regular sales, including sales on vouchers which you can use later, even towards a further sale, etc.. so there are opportunities to save money...and sometimes you can find their stuff on the used market, unlike some others, they allow for complete license transfer of their sample libraries. But generally, if they make new samples, you gotta pay whatever price or sale price is there...

The reason some people get synchronized stuff cheaper is because its mostly using the same samples from the VI version. if you already paid for the VI version, the Synchronized cross grade is m ore affordable in respect of that, even though significant work went into developing the synchronized programming, in some cases the samples were improved, the programming improved, slightly better legatos and other things like that, though sometimes the synchronized version doesn't have quite all fo the articulations as compared to the full VI extended version in some cases, but those that are missing are usually unusual ones that are rarely if ever needed.
 

samplin

New Member
Thanks.

Enjoy Synchron Brass. It's an impressive sounding library. :thumbsup:

Actually, what I really want is Synchron Woodwinds. So, I might just wait.

I have other Brass libraries, from OT, Spitfire, CineSamples, ..etc. . I might not need much more in the Brass Dept.

Cheers,
Muziksculp
The Synchron was are a big step up from the vi version. Much smoother and the tone is better so sits in the mix easier.
good luck!
 
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