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Synchron Strings

Eptesicus

Senior Member
We’d need another one with shorter legato transitions, or a way to adjust them to taste, in my opinion.
We need them to create a string library that is fit to be released in 2019 and is at least as good as the myriad of other products available from their competitors.
 

Sovereign

Senior Member
That one by Herb Tucmandl is especially horrible (not the composition, i mean how the strings sound). 0.28-0.40...what the hell is that?
Hmm yep, that part pretty much emphasizes the weak points. I also don't like how they've mixed the strings, but okay. But the transitions, I don't know. I still believe they cut too deep in them to keep it as playable as possible. I wish there was a way to set the legato sample start (unless their edits are destructive and this is not possible). Also, one gets a slightly better result if you turn the legato blur completely off. It just turns the legato transition into a washy mess.
 

animatione

New Member
Hello, I would like to say that the product of Audio Grocery Synchron Art Tools gave me a new approach to use the Synchron Strings. I was holding off to use the whole library because I did not like to open any http interface for each instrument to be able to control it properly (remotely). Audio Grocery integrated those controls to Logic Smart Contorls, and this is great and very helpfull
 
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animatione

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But it would be great Audio Grocery added Cantabile support, because not all ariticulations are possible. I heard there should be an update soon. Especially Smart Controls work great! I am curious would
Smart Controls when you use Vienna Ensemble Pro?
 

PaulieDC

1967 Bizzarini GT 5300 Strada
But then I fire up Spitfire Chamber Strings and then I like them a lot! ;)
OK, I'm really dense sometimes, help me out, you were talking about the newer Synchron Strings sounding better, then you said the Spitfire Chamber Strings quote. Does that mean you like Spitfire a lot? Or did you mean that after you fire up Spitfire Chamber it makes you realize you like Synchron a lot, more that Spitfire?
 

stigc56

Active Member
OK, I'm really dense sometimes, help me out, you were talking about the newer Synchron Strings sounding better, then you said the Spitfire Chamber Strings quote. Does that mean you like Spitfire a lot? Or did you mean that after you fire up Spitfire Chamber it makes you realize you like Synchron a lot, more that Spitfire?
What I meant was that I'm really full of doubt about sound. I know that I prefer a Steinway for a Yamaha, but that's because I'm a pianist, but what do I know about strings? I seem to flicker between different sounds on different days, like all my drum VI, when I use my BFD they sound great, then Addictive Drums, also sounds really good, and Superior Drummer 3? Really good, different from each other but all good. Do you understand? So sometimes the UI makes the difference; how easy is it to adjust this and that.
So what I'm saying is that if I need a string section for a pop song I will go with SCS, but if I really need to have a symphonic orchestra then I will go for Synchron Strings, to me they are so easy to work with, and with the new additions I believe it will be my favourite.
Hope it makes sense.
 

animatione

New Member
AudioGrocery! I have been able to test the released version of the SYTools.
I would like to say my congratulation for making this amazing product happen.
It works! I will never have to use the Synchron Player with the Web interface!
And you have programmed this all. Keep up the good work. I must emphasise that you changed the way I work for much easier. And made this possiblity in Logic. I am also so happy when I use your AGTools for making scripts possible - when I have my articulations on a few MIDI channels, your scripts lets me to use in the Spitfire instruments one fader to control ALL midi channels' expression and 22CC, 23CC and 24CC (for close, T, and Ambient mics) with one external fader. Thank you and keep up the good work!
 

Ben

Active Member
FYI: VSL just released an update for Synchron Strings I. Cantabile legato for each section + reworked legato articulations.
 

Eptesicus

Senior Member
FYI: VSL just released an update for Synchron Strings I. Cantabile legato for each section + reworked legato articulations.
Just listened to the demos.

Sounds a bit better, but it still doesn't sound convincing. VSL need to hire some people with better ears.
 

Jimmy Hellfire

Senior Member
It's still not that very slurred, slow legato that people like in "cinematic" sounding libraries. It's more like the kind of legato that VSL always did for their strings, like Dimension Strings or Chamber Strings. It's smooth and nice, but still doesn't drag and doesn't slur. It still has that VSL aesthetic, so don't expect any 180° turns philosophy-wise.

The transitions now feel clearly better playability-wise. The cantabile is the best sounding, with nice, smooth transitions that are clearly more audible than the original transitions from the old patches, and it has a very nice "emotive" vibrato which was previosly lacking. The "normal" legato will still feel way too abrupt for most people who would expect this patch to be the "standard" patch for legato, but this one is actually way more useful for stuff where in older libraries, the detache would have been the articulation of choice.

So, I'd say I'm now actually quite happy with the SyS legatos. I always felt drawn to the library because of the general sound and the other articulations, but could never really use it due to the legato issues. The updates and fixes have now rejuvenated my interest. For perspective: for me, the best string library is Dimension Strings. Ahead of stuff like CSS or SCS, which I also own and love. With SyS, there's still things that need fixing IMO - like the sfz and fp patches - but it's now becoming something I can enjoy and work with.

But: it's still a VSL string library, which some will appreciate and other traditionally will not. If you don't have this 270 GB beast already installed on your drive anyway, and you expect a CSS or 8Dio sound from your legato, I'm not sure if re-downloading the whole thing is worth it.
 
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holywilly

Active Member
The re-worked legato finally sounds as good as other VSL string library (at least to my ear and my work flow. Of course, Dimension Strings still have the best legato).

Worth the wait and finally having Syn Strings I in my working template.
 

Jimmy Hellfire

Senior Member
I have a doubt: what do you mean with "redownloading the whole things"?
I downloaded the update (cantabile legato) and that's it. Am I missing anything?
No, you're good. I was just referring to the people who bought the library, but have since uninstalled it after not being happy with it in its original state. I remember some users mentioning that they uninstalled it due to its massive size.
 
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