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Synchron Strings

Sovereign

Senior Member
Well you know what, my first impression is that the new sustains and legato sound really nice. There's a lot more movement and emotive quality here than in the original patches. This seems to be what the library should have come with in the first place.
Just played with these a bit, I share your impressions so far. These are very different in a good way. VSL should step up and do the rest of the string section.
 

FriFlo

Senior Member
Regarding the new recordings for Synchron Strings. Amen! So, they did realize they cannot go on like this. I applaud that attitude and hope they are gonna do more new recordings until the content does justice to the Synchron Strings Vol. 1 label!
 
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FriFlo

Senior Member
You can choose now which version to buy: They are the same price. I really hope we will see VI 3 some day. It is good to see that VSL still keeps releasing VI instruments imo.
Yep, I realized that. But I am still not fine with it. They have to be clear about what platform they want to focus on. And it would help to gain trust to just allow using both versions. Otherwise, I just won't get rid of the feeling that one day I will have to pay some kind of fee in order to keep using my content. Not gonna be fine with that.
 

novaburst

Senior Member
The Dimension String Synchronize version is irresistible, the price for those who already own DS is a dead give away, this could be a lot of fun for existing owners,

I think this is very positive, plus its for the VI as well as the SP
 

Ben

Active Member
They have to be clear about what platform they want to focus on. And it would help to gain trust to just allow using both versions.
I don't have an exact quote, but this is more or less what Paul said a while ago (VSL forum): they continue to support both lines. Synchron is nice for people who want ready to use orchestras as well as those who record at Synchron Stage. But there will be more silent stage instruments.
 

Ben

Active Member
The Dimension String Synchronize version is irresistible, the price for those who already own DS is a dead give away
Could you tell me more why you think so? I have the VI version and still complete unsure if and why I should upgrade (I have also already MIR and the Synchron Stage...).

I think as much as VSL was criticised, they deserve praise for hearing what people say. They have to work on communication with the community regarding these issues, but it is better to release an update (almost) everyone is happy about, instead of just making promises.
 

cadenzajon

Active Member
Could you tell me more why you think so? I have the VI version and still complete unsure if and why I should upgrade (I have also already MIR and the Synchron Stage...).
Dim. Strings I with full spatialization for all the individual players can be pretty resource-hungry, whereas the pre-cooked Synchronized version would just use out-of-the-box samples. Have you run into any performance issues up to this point?
 

novaburst

Senior Member
Could you tell me more why you think so? I have the VI version and still complete unsure if and why I should upgrade (I have also already MIR and the Synchron Stage...).

I think as much as VSL was criticised, they deserve praise for hearing what people say. They have to work on communication with the community regarding these issues, but it is better to release an update (almost) everyone is happy about, instead of just making promises.
I think its worth the jump because you get 5 sections, new 2nd violin,

on your note on Synchron Strings it is not a change its an addition to the library

VSL always answer questions with very helpful answers, but you would do better if you talk to them privately.
 

Ben

Active Member
Dim. Strings I with full spatialization for all the individual players can be pretty resource-hungry, whereas the pre-cooked Synchronized version would just use out-of-the-box samples. Have you run into any performance issues up to this point?
No problems with performance here. And btw: the Synchronized libraries do not come with pre-cooked reverb. It is an IR created with MIR. You can even disable the reverb and use this as a dry library.
 

muziksculp

Senior Member
It's very welcoming, and nice to see VSL take care of improving Synchron Strings I, by adding some new content that offer better legato functionality for the violins. I will install the update, and test later this evening. Updates that include the other sections (violas, cellos). would be nice to see soon.

I'm also surprised to see a Synchronized version of Dim Strings I and II, and a new Dim Strings III for both of their player formats.

Q. Does the Synchron Player have any Auto-Divisi functionality for the Dimension Strings Series ?
 

Ben

Active Member
I think its worth the jump because you get 5 sections, new 2nd violin,
But the violin 2 is just the same as the violin 1 with transposition trick and different IR. I can do the same with a little effort.
VSL always answer questions with very helpful answers, but you would do better if you talk to them privately.
The support of VSL is the best of any company I ever contacted! No issues there.
But a lot of people had the feeling that they were not listened to and were left alone when complaining about Synchron Strings. A short "ok we hear you. We'll see what we can do about it" would have calmed some people imo.
 
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novaburst

Senior Member
But a lot of people had the feeling that they are not listened to and left alone when complaining about Synchron Strings. A short "ok we hear you. We'll see what we can do about it" would have calmed some people imo.
Well they were listened to but if you were belted with tons of slander, criticism by half a million people what would you do.

Fact is the SS was and is a great library VSL showed that through videos, and demos,, some can make the library work very good,......... But really! that's all in the past dude.

VSL are a very hard working developer I mean just go to there Web page, it kind of all makes a lot of sense with this Synchron era.

Just enjoy i guess lots of goody's coming up from VSL
 

cadenzajon

Active Member
> No problems with performance here.

Nice. I used it for a while and struggled with performance with all the instruments (including V1 + V2) spatialized.

> the Synchronized libraries do not come with pre-cooked reverb. It is an IR created with MIR.

Really?! So is a "Synchronized" instrument any different from just a per-library charge for the equivalent of Synchron MIRx?? (And designed for the Synchron Player obviously.)

I thought the Synchronized samples came with a baked-in reverb, apparently not. (So you could, hypothetically, buy the Synchronized version, turn off the IR, and route it through MIR Pro to put it in any space you like.)
 
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dhlkid

Senior Member
Any thought of Dimension Strings III?

How often do we need sul tasto in strings?
 
I'm so pumped for DS3! Instantly buying :)

It's so good to see that they haven't stopped development of the Dimension series. IMO DS1 is the best library that VSL have ever made (I have most of them), and is always the core of my vst orchestra.
It's more complicated than other string libraries, but the end result is worth it. Perhaps the synchronised version will be less daunting, and easier on newcomers, because it will take less time than setting up your stage in MIR.

It will be interesting to try the new Synchron Strings samples. I still doubt that it could compare to the greatness of Dimension strings - but hopefully SS will be good now! It's very nice to see VSL listening to their customers (for what seems like the first time in a while), and correcting their broken library. I honestly didn't see that happening.
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muziksculp

Senior Member
Any feedback regarding auto-divisi funtionality when using the Synchronized Dim-Strings ?

How does it work ? is there an auto-divisi function that's built into the Synchron Dim-Strings Player ?
 

Ben

Active Member
> the Synchronized libraries do not come with pre-cooked reverb. It is an IR created with MIR.

Really?! So is a "Synchronized" instrument any different from just a per-library charge for the equivalent of Synchron MIRx?? (And designed for the Synchron Player obviously.)
Depends on the library. Syn App Strings were re-edited, but Syn Dim Brass is exactly the same...

In the mix tab is on top of a channel strip a little icon. This opens the IR reverb window where you can set the amount or turn it off completely. Don't forget to disable the additional reverb on the fx channel and the instrument is dry and ready to use in MIR ;)
 
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