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tmpc said:
. . . and sales.
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Maybe they're willing to lose a bit of sales for the sake of the perceived lower complexity/effort on their part. It's still a bit silly to me for modern eComm software, but only they know how this is working out for them, all things considered.

Time for me to exit this convo.
 
Evans said:
Maybe they're willing to lose a bit of sales for the sake of the perceived lower complexity/effort on their part. It's still a bit silly to me for modern eComm software, but only they know how this is working out for them, all things considered.

Time for me to exit this convo.
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Yes, at a certain point you just have to move on. I do think Crow Hill is a small team and these complexities are hard to manage, especially since some jurisdictions require listing prices with VAT included.

The solution some vendors have adopted, though it’s not perfect is charging the same number in dollars and euros or pounds but including VAT in the euro or pound price but adding sales tax to the dollar price. That doesn’t quite work out, and how well it works varies with the exchange rate, but it’s very simple and a better approximation than something like what Crow Hill is doing.
 
tmpc said:
"Fair" has nothing to do with it. They can certainly do this if they want to. But let's be clear, they are forcing folks not subject to the VAT to pay it . . . which is wrong.
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I think its the opposite, the net price is 149£, and they absorb VAT for anyone who needs to pay it.
 
Vlzmusic said:
I think its the opposite, the net price is 149£, and they absorb VAT for anyone who needs to pay it.
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No. The price before vat is currently 125 GBP.
A British vat registered business (not consumers) would be able to claim back 24.83GBP from British Revenue after having paid 149GBP.
So Crowhill Co is either pocketing 25GBP that they shouldn't be charging some of their foreign customers, or they may be charging and giving unnecessary amounts to British revenue.

Either way, it is an oversight no other British sofware manucturer I know would have made (certainly not Spitfire), so the earlier they resolve that, the better for everyone (including Crowhill's company image)

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Evans said:
Maybe they're willing to lose a bit of sales for the sake of the perceived lower complexity/effort on their part. It's still a bit silly to me for modern eComm software, but only they know how this is working out for them, all things considered.
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As a web developer I find this rather perplexing. Crow Hill is using an off-the-shelf ecommerce program, Woo, which offers hundreds of plugin extension scripts specifically to automatically calculate VAT, tax, etc. It doesn't require custom programming to implement.
 
Alchemedia said:
As a web developer I find this rather perplexing. Crow Hill is using an off-the-shelf ecommerce program, Woo, which offers hundreds of plugin extension scripts specifically to automatically calculate VAT, tax, etc. It doesn't require custom programming to implement.
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Having worked for several underfunded startups, it may simply be that they are all so overworked right now that they just can't find the time to go back and fix a prior screw-up that's limping along.

By the way, after all of my bitching and moaning, I purchased the library (VAT and all) a few days ago. It sounds great, and parts of it are definitely unique. I hope CH continues down this multi-sampled / dynamic / pseudo-aleatoric path.
 
Tavman said:
I open this wonderful library in Ableton but can not see how to save any patches.Please Help
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I asked this question of CH myself. Although String Murmurations doesn't support this now, it will in a future update. However, if you make those tweaks within a DAW and save that DAW file, those changes should reload.
 
Why can't I pay in US$? I'm in the U.S. and when I add it to cart, it shows British pounds only.
It was $179 last week, which is less than £149
When I change the default currency to USD in my account settings, it doesn't save the changes
 
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szurcio said:
Why can't I pay in US$? I'm in the U.S. and when I add it to cart, it shows British pounds only.
It was $179 last week, which is less than £149
When I change the default currency to USD in my account settings, it doesn't save the changes
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Go back about a week and read the posts for the whole story. The bottom line is that Crow Hill is a startup and they can only deal with Pounds right now. So, either use PayPal or a credit card that can work with foreign currencies (if you have one).
 
dunamisstudio said:
Yeah I went to buy tonight and conversion to US dollar by Paypal was higher than stated here or Google Search. I hate it but pass for me now.
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I might misunderstood your comment, but PayPal offers a way to pay on native currency and your Bank Credit Card will handle the conversion.

It's known that PayPal conversion rates are higher than banks for most of the cases.
Worth checking and compare with your CC conversion rate. Mine is cheaper than PayPal and I use that.

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