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Vik

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I believe that I saw a list somewhere, probably on this site, over a lot of string libraries and the number of players in each of their sections, but can't find it. Does anyone know where I can find such a list?

If not, maybe we could turn this thread into such a list - if manufacturers and/or users are willing to list the section sizes for each of their string libraries?
 

Moquan

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Was it this post?

https://vi-control.net/community/threads/cinematic-studio-strings-vs-spitfire-chamber-strings.54483/#post-3972818

16-16-12-10-8 ........ LA Scoring Strings (just four players shy of Wagner's specifications for The Ring)

16-14-12-10-8 ........ Mural

16-14-10-10-7 ........ Hollywood Strings


16-12-10-10-7 ........ CinestringsCORE

12-8-7-7-6 ........ Cinematic Strings 2

10-7-7-6-5 ........ Cinematic Studio Strings

8-6-5-5-4 ........ Berlin Strings


4-3-3-3-3 (fixed!!) ........ Sable (and the new Spitfire Chamber Strings)
 
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Vik

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Thanks, I think there's another list somewhere also, but that's a good start for a new and more complete list.

It's probably also a good idea to list them by number (of V1 players) and not name of library.



16-16-12-10-8 LA Scoring Strings

16-14-12-10-8 Spitfire Symphonic Strings / Mural

16-14-10-10-7- Hollywood Strings

16-12-10-10-7- CinestringsCORE

12-8-7-7-6 Cinematic Strings 2

10-7-7-6-5 Cinematic Studio Strings

8-6-5-5-4 Berlin Strings

4-3-3-3-3 Spitfire Chamber Strings/Sable
 
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Vik

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Or maybe it's better with an alphabetical list? Here's the list from one of the polls we have:


8dio Adagietto (11-8-6-4, no violin 2)
8dio Adagio 11/*/7/6/4 [2 mic positions] 90.2GB, divisi: 6-3-2-2
8dio Agitato (11/*/7/6/* [2 mic positions] 32.7GB, divisi 3-3-3-?)
8dio Anthology 11/*/7/6/4 [2 mic positions] 109GB
8dio Cage Strings
8dio Century Strings 6-4-6-4-4
8Dio Majestica/8W (20-20-30-30)
Aria Sounds London Symphonic Strings
Auddict: The United Strings of Europe (20 players)
Audio Imperia Jaeger/Essential Modern Orchestra (16-10-6-4)
Audiobro LA Scoring Strings (LASS, 62 players) 16/*/12/10/8 [1 mic position] 16.4GB (+ First Chairs)
Audiobro Legato Sordino Strings
Chris Hein String Ensemble
Cinematic Strings 2, 40 players: 12/8/7/7/6 [3 mic positions] 21.1GB
Cinematic Studio Strings (CSS, 35 [+4] players) 10/7/7/6/5 [3 mic positions], 34.5GB (+ solo strings as an option)
Cinematique Instruments Ensemblia
Cinestrings Core, 57 players 16/12/10/10/7 [4 mic positions, 85 gb] 50GB
Cinesamples CineStrings Pro
East West Hollywood Strings, 57 players: 16/14/10/10/7 [7 mic positions] 312.0GB
East West QL Symphonic Orchestra 18/4-11-10-10/3-9: several different sized section patches:18 Violins, 11 Violins and 4 Violins/10 Celli and 3 Celli
Frozen Plain Arctic Strings
Garritan Instant Orchestra
Garritan Personal Orchestra 5 (12-10-10-8-7)
Garritan Personal Orchestra 5 Ensembles (9-3-9-3)
Heavyocity Novo
IK Multimedia: Miroslav Philharmonik (1/2)
Impact Soundworks Furia Staccato Strings
Impact Soundworks Rhapsody Orchestral Colours
Kirk Hunter Chamber Strings 3 (4-4-4-4-4, can choose from 2-4 for each section)
Kirk Hunter Diamond Symphony Orchestra Chamber Section (4-4-3-2)
Kirk Hunter Concert Strings 2 (16-12-12-6, half division 8-6-6-3, Quarter Division 4-4-3-2)
Kirk Hunter Concert Strings 3 (16-16-16-16-16, can choose from 4-16 for each section)
Kirk Hunter Diamond Symphony Orchestra (18-18-10-9-6)
Kirk Hunter Diamond Symphony Orchestra Studio Section (9-9-6-5-3)
Kirk Hunter Pop Rock Strings
Kirk Hunter Spotlight Strings
Light and Sound Chamber Strings (LSCS, 18 players) (6,5,3,3,1)
Miroslav Philharmonik 1 (23-4-10-9)
Miroslav Philharmonik 2 (14/4-8-5-4)
Miroslav String Ensembles 2.0
Musical Sampling Adventure Strings
Musical Sampling Soaring Strings (10/*/6/5/4)
Musical Sampling Trailer Strings 18 VI, 16 VA, 14 VC, 12 B (60 players (Vln1+2 recorded as one section; no legatos)
NI Symphonic String Ensemble, 60 players (16/14/12/10/8, divisi 8-6-6-4-4 [3 mic positions], 34.2GB.
Native Instruments Action Strings: 36 Players in High (22-8-6 no Basses) and 24 Players in Low (10-8-6 no Violins)
Native Instruments Emotive Strings
NI Session Strings 4-3-2-2 times 4 (as they have sections 1,2,3 and 4 each with these settings)
Novo Intimate Textures
Orchestral Tools Berlin Strings (BS, 28 players) 8/6/5/5/4, 129.0GB (5 extra players with optional First Chairs)
Orchestral Tools Berlin Orchestra Inspire 8-6-5-5-4 (+ optional First Chairs)
Orchestral Tools Metropolis Ark:
-Metropolis Ark 1 (14-10-8-10)
-Metropolis Ark 2 (24-10-16-12)
-Metropolis Ark 3 (21-14-10-9)
Orchestral Tools Orchestral String Runs
Orchestral Tools Symphonic Sphere (16-10-8-6)
Output Analog strings
Performance Samples Con Moto (8 violins, 6 violas, 6 cellos, and 6 basses)
Peter Siedlaczek String Essentials (Complete Orchestral Collection) 14 Vi, 10 Va, 8 Vc and 6 B
Project SAM Orchestral Essentials
Project SAM Orchestral Essentials 2
Project SAM Symphobia
Project SAM Symphobia 2
Project SAM Symphobia 3: Lumina
Project SAM Symphonic Colors Orchestrator
Red Room Audio Palette Symphonic Sketchpad:
-Strings, Full (12-10-8-6-4)
-Strings, Chamber (6-5-4-3-2)
Sampletank 3 Alleged Strings
Solid State Symphony by Indiginus
Sonic Implants Symphonic Strings 8-6-6-5 or 6-4
Sonivox Orchestral Companion Strings
Sonokinetic Capriccio
Sonokinetic Da Capo
Sonokinetic Espressivo
Sonokinetic Grosso
Sonokinetic Maximo
Sonokinetic Sotto
Sonokinetic Tutti
Sonokinetic Vivace
Soundiron/Native Instruments Chamber Strings
Spitfire - Bernard Herrmann Composer Toolkit
Spitfire Albion 1 (11/9/7/6/4)
-Albion One (37 players - only high/low string sections available)
-Albion 2 (8-6-4-4-3)
-Albion 3 (0,0,0,24,8)
-Albion 4
-Albion 5 (38-0-12-6)
Spitfire Chamber Strings / Sable (SCS, 16 players) 4/3/3/3/3, 287.7GB
Spitfire Evo Grid
Spitfire Hans Zimmer Strings
Spitfire London Contemporary Strings 6/*/4/3/2 [2 mic positions] 28.1GB
Spitfire Masse
Spitfire Olafur Arnalds Chamber Evolutions
Spitfire Olafur Arnalds Evolutions
Spitfire Studio Strings (SStS) (8, 6, 6, 6, 4)
Spitfire Symphonic Evolutions
Spitfire Symphonic Strings / Mural (SSS) 16/14/12/10/8, 101.1GB
Strezov Cornucopia String Ensembles (6-5-4-3-2)
Strezov Afflatus:
- 12-10-8-8-6 library with divisi​
- 6-5-4-4 chamber library​
- a 6-5-4-4-2 'minimalist' library. These presets sections also have divisi, and those can be used alone as well, meaning that there's also a 3-3-2-2 half section in there.​
-Scene d'Amour' presets (5-4-3-3)​
-First Chairs (1-1-1-1-1) (More here)​
Versilian Studios VSCO 2 (5-4-3-2)
VSL Appassionata Strings (20/*/14/12/10 [1 mic position] 19.4GB)
VSL Chamber Strings (6/*/4/3/2 [1 mic position] 40.7GB)
VSL Dimension Strings (8/*/6/6/4 [1 mic position] 246.8GB)
VSL Orchestral Strings (14/*/10/8/6 [1 mic posiiton] 42.4GB)
VSL Special Edition (14 violins, 10 Violas, 8 cellos, 6 basses)
VSL Synchron Strings (14-10-8-8-6)
Zilhouette Strings by Cinematique Instruments (7-2-7-2)

If any of you know the section sizes for these libraries, please post them in the thread or in a PM - I'll copy them into this post later.
More info about section sizes here:
https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/sampled-orchestra-part2
 
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I was doing this for a number of libraries just to compare (borrowed, in part, VSL's naming convention):

Garritan Orchestral Strings (12 1st VI, 10 2nd VI, 10 VA, 8 VC, 7 B)
VSL Orchestral strings (14 VI, 10 VA, 8 VC, 6 B)
Sonic Implants/Sonivox Strings (8 1st VI, 6 2nd VI, 6 VA, 5 VC, 4 B)
MusicalSampling Trailer Strings (18 VI, 16 VA, 14 VC, 12 B)
VSL Chamber Strings (6 VI, 4 VC, 3 VA, 2 B)

MusicalSampling Adventure Strings (Medium-size ensembles)
MusicalSampling Soaring Strings (Medium-size ensembles)

One note:
For Peter Siedlaczek's Advanced Orchestra (part of CCC), the booklet for AO mentions 14 VI, 10 VA, 8 VC and 6 B, just like VSL's orchestral strings.

Not sure about String Essentials.
 
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StatKsn

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8Dio Adagio Strings (11-7-7-7)
8Dio Adagio Strings Divisi (6-3-2-2)
8Dio Agitato (11-8-6-6)
8Dio Agitato Divisi (3-3-3-?)
Cinematique Instruments Zilhouette Strings (7-2-7-2)
EWQL Symphonic Orchestra (18/4-11-10-10/3-9)
Garritan Personal Orchestra 5 (12-10-10-8-7)
Garritan Personal Orchestra 5 Ensembles (9-3-9-3)
Miroslav Philharmonik 1 (23-4-10-9)
Miroslav Philharmonik 2 (14/4-8-5-4)
NI Symphonic String Ensemble (16-12-12-8-8)
NI Symphonic String Ensemble Divisi (8-6-6-4-4)
Orchestral Tools Symphonic Sphere (16-10-8-6)
Spitfire Albion 1 (11-9-7-6-4) Edit:typo
Spitfire Albion 2 (8-6-4-4-3)
Spitfire Albion 5 (38-0-12-6)
Strezov Sampling Cornucopia Strings (6-5-4-3-2)
Versilian Studios VSCO 2 (5-4-3-2)

Does anyone know what the sizing was for those ancient old libraries?
Big Fish Audio/Prosonus Orchestral Strings
Kirk Hunter Virtuoso Strings
 
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NoamL

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I believe that I saw a list somewhere, probably on this site, over a lot of string libraries and the number of players in each of their sections, but can't find it. Does anyone know where I can find such a list?
I updated my old post with this list of the majors -

Symphony Sized
LA Scoring Strings - 62 players
Trailer Strings - 60 players (Vln1+2 recorded as one section; no legatos)
NI Symphonic Series Strings - 60 players
Spitfire Symphonic Strings - 60 players
Hollywood Strings - 57 players
Cinestrings Core - 55 players

Studio Sized
Cinematic Strings2 - 40 players
Soaring Strings & Adventure Strings - I can't find any info but I think they're around 40
Albion ONE - 37 players (only high/low string sections available)
Cinematic Studio Strings - 35 players (39 with added Solo Strings)
Berlin Strings - 28 players (32 with added First Chairs)

Chamber Sized
Auddict United Strings of Europe - 20 players
Light & Sound Chamber Strings - 18 players
Spitfire Chamber Strings - 16 players
 

StatKsn

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EWQLSO has several different-sized section patches. (18 Violins, 11 Violins and 4 Violins/10 Celli and 3 Celli)
 
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StatKsn

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8Dio Majestica/8W (20-20-30-30)
Kirk Hunter Chamber Strings 3 (4-4-4-4-4) can choose from 2-4 for each section
Kirk Hunter Concert Strings 2 (16-12-12-6)
Kirk Hunter Concert Strings 2 Half Division (8-6-6-3)
Kirk Hunter Concert Strings 2 Quarter Division (4-4-3-2)
Kirk Hunter Concert Strings 3 (16-16-16-16-16) can choose from 4-16 for each section
Kirk Hunter Diamond Symphony Orchestra (18-18-10-9-6)
Kirk Hunter Diamond Symphony Orchestra Studio Section (9-9-6-5-3)
Kirk Hunter Diamond Symphony Orchestra Chamber Section (4-4-3-2)
VSL Appassionata Strings (20-14-12-10)
VSL Dimension Strings (8-6-6-4) with a spot mic for each player
VSL Synchron Strings (14-10-8-8-6)

Added: Adagietto uses the same sample as Adagio, and Anthology uses the sample from Adagio/Agitato.
 
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Vik

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Garritan Personal Orchestra 5 (12-10-10-8-7)
Garritan Personal Orchestra 5 Ensembles (9-3-9-3)
What's the difference between what you listed here and Garritan Instant Orchestra? Do they use the same section sizes?
 

fretti

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Jaeger (16-10-6-4)
NI Session Strings (4-3-2-2) times 4 (as they have sections 1,2,3 and 4 each with these settings)
NI Action Strings: 36 Players in High (22-8-6 no Basses) and 24 Players in Low (10-8-6 no Violins)
Orchestral Tools Inspire (BOI) should be the same as Berlin Strings, as they just repacked (some) of the samples into one Ensemble Patch
 
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Casiquire

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I'm not sure whether First Chairs should be included, but if we do include them then LASS is 18 First, 17 Second, 14 Vla, 12 Vc, 10 DB. But I think that would just add confusion
 
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fretti

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I'm not sure whether First Chairs should be included, but if we do include them then LASS is 18 First, 17 Second, 14 Vla, 12 Vc, 10 DB. But I think that would just add confusion
Agree, maybe just put a +FC in the brackets or so to imply that they offer First Chairs, because otherwise it would get to complicated to see where it's the original number and where the FC's are already added (e.g. OTs old First Chairs had no bass, but now they have, whereas BOI still only has a quartet)...
 

StatKsn

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Strange! IIRC 8Dio clearly stated that Adagietto uses selected/edited samples from Adagio. Maybe not exactly the same stuff?

Also, neither Adagio/Agitato have 2nd violins. There is a "2nd violin" switch that triggers pitch+transpose trick so that you can double, though, it is a simulation.
 
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