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Stream Deck - killer REAL button controller

Discussion in 'PC/Mac Builders, Mods, Peripherals - New' started by whinecellar, Jul 10, 2018.

  1. whinecellar

    whinecellar Jim Daneker

    E326CDFC-0182-4F06-9C7C-1C4161550C41.jpeg 1136F40B-951E-4A75-8D8F-33A276755348.jpeg 2E6B8784-88E8-4400-A319-6B0A89F3AD3E.jpeg 7BFD2802-69F8-496E-B16C-D04686186661.jpeg 9C9851E3-6227-452A-AB69-BB0C84DD429E.jpeg Hey Guys,

    Forgive the following rave, but I’m betting a lot of you will find this useful.

    I saw this little box a few weeks back and shrugged it off because I already have 2 iPads running TouchOSC and several heavily mapped hardware controllers (Behringer X-Touch & XT Compact, Contour Shuttle Pro, and so on). However, curiosity got the better of my so I ordered an El Gato Stream Deck. The more I use it, the more I love it; I just ordered a second one, and the two of them will replace one of my iPads.

    The thing I like about it over TouchOSC, Lemur or even a hardware XKeys unit is that each key instantly becomes anything you want and graphically represents that function - in *any* app, not just your DAW. As nice as XKeys is, pulling all those key caps off to add custom printed labels is a big job - only to have to repeat it any time you want to change something. And those paper labels will only reflect that one function. Same idea with TouchOSC: creating custom layouts is tedious and doesn’t have graphic support, let alone the ability to do entire macros unless you set it up with OSCulator - also very tedious.

    On Stream Deck, a button might be a key command (or entire macro) in your DAW. But switch to Mail, and it could apply a junk mail filter. Or type your ridiculously lengthy email address. Or add your signature. All in one press. Switch to Photoshop and that same button could become a smart tool, start a batch process, or apply a filter. Switch to Finder and that button could batch rename a bunch of files. Or open a project folder on a specific drive. In Safari it could open VI Forum in a new tab... ;)

    And the best part: that button will have any graphic/text/picture you want for each assignment in any app - and the whole thing switches instantly depending on the current app. And it’s all wicked fast to set up - it’s a simple drag & drop interface.

    Nothing else does this. I’ve wanted this kind of device forever - with real tactile buttons - so TouchOSC, XKeys, etc. were only stopgaps for me. I’ll still use my TouchOSC templates for articulation switching and custom CCs, but for everything else, I’m hooked on Stream Deck. Here are just a few shots of my initial setup in a few different apps.

    Cheers!

    Jim

    P.S. FWIW, I have no ties to El Gato whatsoever - I just think this is a killer little game-changer. Best $139 I've spent in a LONG time!
     
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  2. SchnookyPants

    SchnookyPants I never metaphor I didn't like

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    $139!? That's killer. Thanks for posting.
     
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  3. sostenuto

    sostenuto Senior Member

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    Noted this on Reaper Forum recently with emphasis on Win 10 and macOS 10.11 or later.
    No problem here and looks very cool.
     
  4. SchnookyPants

    SchnookyPants I never metaphor I didn't like

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    Beware maybe? Just read one guy saying it doesn't operate w/ W7. So one guy may be wrong, but I gotta look further into this - or I suppose I could always join the rest of the planet and up to W10.

    Edit: Damn you fast-fingers Sostenuto. Beat me again.
     
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  5. tmhuud

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    That’s great Jim. I have to check and see if we ordered this or not. How did you get the graphics in there? And how to do you switch between ‘layers’. ?
     
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    MatFluor Senior Member

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    Damn - I forgot about that

    I have left some budget this month from my Keyboard purchase...I know I don't need it...







    It'll arrive in the mail tomorrow.
     
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    whinecellar Jim Daneker

    Hey Terry! Trust me, you will love it! I can't wait to add my second one when it shows up tomorrow ;)

    Adding graphics is simply drag & drop onto the setup application; it mirrors the hardware so you just drag a jpg/png to one of the buttons and voila! Couldn't be easier.

    And switching between layers is just as easy - assuming you mean multiple layers *per application* - you just tell one of the buttons to be a folder. When you press that button, it takes you into that folder; that same button takes you back out a level. In that case you effectively have 14 buttons available to use per layer.

    And the whole thing automatically and instantly switches layouts for each app you set up. It's a brilliant little box. It's essentially Metagrid, but with "roll your own" icons/graphics, which Metagrid can't do.
     
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    tmhuud Brown Belt

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    That’s great Jim. Thanks. Ordered!
     
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    Not sure if you guys saw this one.
     
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    whinecellar Jim Daneker

    Ha - yep, he gets it! Couldn’t agree more - it’s a blast to set up, especially when you really start to grasp what all it can do! Glad I’m in good company ;)
     
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  11. JJP

    JJP I put dots and lines on paper.

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    I've had my eye on one of these for a while. I have an X-Keys pro that has served me for about a decade. I've always wanted something with LCD keys.

    Your review and the price are making me want to take the plunge. 2 of these should replace my x-keys nicely.

    @whinecellar, please report back on the success of integrating 2 Steam Decks into your system.
     
  12. MatFluor

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    They had quite nice Updates meanwhile, including the possiblity to use two stream decks simultaneously.

    Here some features that are nice (through random versions):

    Introducing Multi Actions
    If you think tapping a key to execute an action is impressive, you’ll love Multi Actions. That’s right – assign as many actions as you want to a single key, and launch them all with a tap. Either one after another separated by intervals, or simultaneously. It's your choice. Example: Start your stream, and switch to your intro countdown scene, wait 1 minute, tweet you are live, wait 3 minutes, change your scene to full screen webcam, unmute your mic, and post a welcome message to your chat - all with 1 key press.

    Multi Device Support
    15 keys just don't cut it? Rejoice! You can now use multiple Stream Decks on the same PC. Unlimited actions just became, well, super-unlimited!​

    Smart Profiles
    Stream Deck can now automatically switch to the profile assigned to an app when that app is brought to the foreground. Think Apple's Touch Bar, but cooler!​
     
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    whinecellar Jim Daneker

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    Your wish is my command. Second one just came today - already working great - and 2 of them side by side just happened to perfectly fit the stand I built for one of my iPads. Loving it!
     
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    Very nice. Something tells me 2 of these are in my future. 1 is on its way. Now to work out the ergonomics...
     
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    whinecellar Jim Daneker

    Be warned, it can be a black hole once you start dreaming of all you can do with it, especially if you go nuts with graphics & making it pretty - but man it's fun once you get it the way you want!
     
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    How long did it take to get yours set up and customized?
     
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    whinecellar Jim Daneker

    I did it all in a few hours Saturday afternoon, end it only took that long because I was being OCD about graphics ;)
     
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    Nice - got mine in the mail. I did some pre-setup yesterday (design some things already, put it in the companion software). Then plug it in and bam - done

    Very quick to set up (if you don't go full OCD on graphics). The current version allows you to simply drag shortcuts onto it to start Applications - which is very nice for quick set up.

    The rabbit hole is the same as with TouchOSC...What Action do I want on there? Where to position them? Maybe leave that one on the Keyboard, and put that on on the StreamDeck....
     
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  20. Blakus

    Blakus Senior Member

    You convinced me, Jim. I joined the stream deck party yesterday too. Really loving it! Having it automatically switch profiles for different apps is so satisfying :dancedance: Very impressed with how easy it is to set up too! With the custom icon creator and drag 'n' drop capability, it's painless.
     
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